Coach for 2003

Discussion in 'New York Red Bulls' started by smith, Sep 17, 2002.

  1. smith

    smith New Member

    Nov 1, 2000
    Okay after Twellman's hat trick this Saturday knocks us out of the playoff picture, it's likely OZ will get fired. Who should replace him?

    1) Dave Dir

    2) Dave Masur

    3) Roberto Donadoni

    4) Shep Messing

    5)Giorgia Chinaglia (humor value mostly)

    6) Paul Riley

    Pick one. If you can think of anyone else, throw the name in the mix.
     
  2. stinky

    stinky Member

    May 14, 2000
    Long Beach, NY
    ray hudson
     
  3. mscheffel

    mscheffel New Member

    Jul 29, 1999
    NJ, US
    Tab Ramos Assistant Coach to Shep Messing. Would be interesting, to say the least. Course, who takes Messing's place in the booth? Tommy, where are you?
     
  4. Sweeper

    Sweeper New Member

    Feb 11, 1999
    Ray Hudson is an incompetent dullard. Passion is fine, but he has no brains for the game.

    Tabare is not a forceful enough personality.

    The one man who can do the job, though tainted from four years ago, is Steve Sampson. He espouses attractive soccer, is a good tactician, has international experience, a working knowledge of the American game, and a good knowledge of the region.
     
  5. Michael K.

    Michael K. Member

    Mar 3, 1999
    There or Thereabouts
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's from California and lives there, no?
     
  6. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Dave Sarachan
     
  7. Frank Cunha

    Frank Cunha New Member

    Sep 17, 2001
    UNION TOWNSHIP, NJ
    Best coaching team Dave Masur and Tab Ramos.
    Chinaglia give me a break.

    Tab Ramos deserves to stay with the team at some capacity.
     
  8. Frank Cunha

    Frank Cunha New Member

    Sep 17, 2001
    UNION TOWNSHIP, NJ
    The coach is coming from the Chicago Fire, is coming home.
     
  9. smith

    smith New Member

    Nov 1, 2000
    Chinaglia is strictly for humor value, Frank.

    I AM serious when I say the team should have cheerleaders...ANYTHING to avoid looking at the mess on the field.
     
  10. Frank Cunha

    Frank Cunha New Member

    Sep 17, 2001
    UNION TOWNSHIP, NJ
    I do agree with with you 100% about cheerleaders.
    After watching the Metrostars losing most of the games at home, at least I could be watching the cheerleaders.
    Cheerleaders are good for the game, they do a lot work off the field, and the can cheer the fans at half time. Metrostars nothing for entretaiment
    the fans at half time. Boring
     
  11. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    They're not doing much for entertaining the fans either side of halftime either.
     
  12. BhoysFC1995

    BhoysFC1995 New Member

    Nov 30, 1999
    NYC
    1) Dave Dir
    no.

    2) Dave Masur
    seems that he could be a good disciplinarian coach- but could he cut in the pros?

    3) Roberto Donadoni
    joking?

    4) Shep Messing
    definitely a joke, have you listen to him on tv?? he would be worse than firmani.

    5)Giorgia Chinaglia (humor value mostly)
    exactly, humor.

    6) Paul Riley
    could be a good choice. he has coached many pros, before they were pros, and i always hear good things about him from people he coached. he has also stated that he doesn't plan on coaching the Riders anymore.

    (7)Sampson
    oh god, never. we might as well keep oz. he'll set up the team in a 7-2-1
     
  13. jmh30

    jmh30 New Member

    Apr 15, 2002
    Brooklyn, NY
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hee! For a second, I thought that said PAT Riley.

    On second thought, that guy at least could get his team motivated.
     
  14. bukie2k

    bukie2k Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    New Jersey
    Seeing as how he couldn't even get hired by his alma mater UCLA, why not.
     
  15. MetroFever

    MetroFever Member+

    Jun 3, 2001
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    And what exactly has he done to "deserve" this?
     
  16. TEConnor

    TEConnor New Member

    Feb 22, 1999
    Thomas Rongen
     
  17. jamison

    jamison Member

    Sep 25, 2000
    NYC
    Rongen?

    We haven't given DC enough ammunition for abuse in the last 2 weeks?
     
  18. BobtheMetroStars12thman

    Nov 18, 1998
    Vladislav Bogicevic (Bogie). Hey give the Bogie man a shot, he's been begging to coach Metro for years.
     
  19. smith

    smith New Member

    Nov 1, 2000
    Bogie's not a bad choice. And not just to please Supernova & other Cosmos people. That might work.
    Bottom line, tough, is we need to get more out of what we have, find a right sided mid, an experienced defender & some depth.
     
  20. miguel

    miguel Member

    Nov 26, 1998
    Fernando Clavijo would be a great coach for the Metro's. he has already seen all the problems associated with coaching the Metro's when he was an assistant under Bora.

    Personally, I think that the idiots in the front office who manage the Revolution released Fernando before he had the chance to turn that team around and make it a winner. I wonder what the MLS season would have been like in Boston, if Clavijo had been able to get Chacon and Serna to put out 100% and play together as a scoring unit like they did in the past.

    Oh yeah... Who saw the potential early on in a very young Taylor Twellman. Was it Steve Nicol, or Clavijo? I'd give Fernando another shot at coaching in the MLS and the Metro's might be just the team. He's certainly a better choice than Steve Sampson....adios
     
  21. Red Card

    Red Card Member+

    Mar 3, 1999
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If they want to gamble with a big name, how about Klinnsman? (please, don't even mention LM)
     
  22. JoeW

    JoeW New Member

    Apr 19, 2001
    Northern Virginia, USA
    Several suggestions.

    --2 long-time MLS assistants with good reps: Ralph Perez (assisted Bob Gansler with the National Side in "90, coached at San Jose State, thought he assisted Quieroz) and Dominic Kinnear (Yallop's assistant and former National team player);

    --Steve Sampson is worth a look. In US Soccer, when a national team coach fails, we tend to put them in the wilderness and pretend they never existed. Just look at Gansler as one example of this. Though I'm not wild about Sampson, he is worth interviewing. He was offered the job in San Jose but turned it down b/c it was only a 1-year deal.

    --Bobby Clark: former national team coach for New Zealand, GK for Aberdeen, former coach at Stanford (coached Oughton and Nelsen there) and now at Notre Dame. Has a great rep as a teacher.

    --Dave Sarachan (Arena's assistant) knows he needs some head-man experience before he'll be considered to replace Arena some day. What that means is even if Sarachan is successful, you won't have him long. B/c the formula would be: coach for 2 years, then quite to assist Arena again in 2004 qualifying, then replace Arena if he steps down after Germany 2006. And that's even if Sarachan said "yes"--right now he's got a guaranteed 4 year contract (ie: he's a coach as long as Arena is there) but could get fired anytime as a pro coach.

    --Richard Gough (former Everton, Scottish Int., player coach at KC with Newman and SJ, clashed with both MLS coaches, was respected by his teammates, was supposed to be the frontrunner for the DC job until Miami was contracted. He really wanted to coach here in the States, is now back in England I believe working with Everton's reserves).

    --George Gelnovatch: played a few games with United, known more for being head coach at U.Va (Alecko Eskandarian is one of his players) and the U20 US Coach. His U20 teams have performed very well.

    --Mooch Myernick: Not a glamous choice. But director of scouting for Arena in the WC. After being canned by Colorado, he coached P-40. Any team he coaches doesn't quit and fights until the last minute. Oh, and he played his college ball in Hartwick--not quick metro territory but still in NY. And don't think he's "sexy enough" to be chosen but he's a guy who would prepare his teams, kick butt (and motivates), is soccer smart, knows the league talent and prepares well. Plus, while not everyone loves Bruce Arena, just remember, there are only a few people Arena trusted with big responsibility during the WC: Sarachan was one. Myernich was another.

    As for a few of the other names that have been trotted out:
    --Clavijo? NE was gifted a championship this year. They got to draft the best player in the superdraft. Quick--identify anyone coming out of college who has been a significant contributor for his team this year. You can't do it--Brad Davis comes closest. With Twellman, NE got a gift at minimum salary (I bet he might make less than Davis) who could lead the league in scoring! Oh, they also were given Adin Brown, the leagues MVP APC, Ralston (who might lead in assists) and a few other useful players. But the man can't assemble a team. The team this year was his creation. The team last year was his creation. Both emploded. All the talent NE had and has and they might not make the playoffs.
    --Ramos? A good guy, competitor and maybe the best American on the dribble there ever way. But that's not qualification for being a coach. Saying he should coach is like assuming Eddie Firmani has the skills to be a good coach in MLS--even less so b/c Firmani coached pro ball before.
    --Donadoni? Didn't the NE experience with Zenga prove this idea is no good? Donadoni would come here only to get a job in Europe (ie: get a year's head coaching experience first so you can get hired by the clubs you really want to work for). If there is anything MLS has shown (and the hiring of Queiroz and Pererra and Miluntonic should show) is that you need someone who knows the local talent and will take the time to understand the leagues quirky rules and policies. Donadoni would fail.
    --Bob Bradley (Chicago) is wishful thinking. He had an opportunity to jump ship and instead signed an extension.
     
  23. worthy

    worthy New Member

    Aug 22, 2002
    New York
    Im going with the Major League Baseball logic (it worked with the Diamondbacks) of hiring Shep from the announcer booth. At least he knows what he is getting himself into having to watch this team all year.

    I laughed as well thinking Pat Riley for a second with his slicked back hair and Armoni suit at the swamp pacing down the sidelines with his $500 shoes full of mud and turf.
     
  24. Speedball

    Speedball Member

    Feb 27, 1999
    Harrison Stadium
    George Weah
     

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