Coach Cheney...do you hold the Presidential "wee-wee" while he goes too???

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  1. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan AN INTERVIDUAL

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    #1 Mel Brennan, Apr 4, 2004
    From Fox News, but its a quote; they don't usually get that wrong:

    "...within the next few weeks, Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney will appear before the group in a private session. They will answer questions together, as requested by the White House. Bush adviser Karen Hughes says the rare joint appearance is appropriate.

    "Many times President Bush and Vice President Cheney were in the room together in much of the events, much of the briefings ... extraordinary event ... I think it is appropriate they would appear together and discuss events leading up to Sept. 11," Hughes said in a Sunday television interview...


    LOL...I'm sure that Dick held it for him when he went "wee-wee" too...what a FARCE...the sad, SAD thing is that this cabal thinks that America has become so weak, so deteriorated, that they can even BREAK BREATH to offer crap like this...appearing together; puh-LEESE!!! The whole point of testimony, of any kind, is to engage the sbuject's own recollection of events, to compare and contrast with other "recollections."

    All of this on top of the one fact we all know to be true:

    George W Bush is too ********ing stupid to appear anywhere by himself.

    When BushCo. THINKS that they can offer "team recollections," and the American people don't ask for team resignations, we are in overwhelmingly dire trouble.
     
  2. superdave

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    #2 superdave, Apr 4, 2004
    It's not about intelligence.

    Two perps are always separated by the cops for interrogation. That way they can't coordinate their lies, and they get busted.
     
  3. Ian McCracken

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    #3 Ian McCracken, Apr 4, 2004
    This is not supposed to be an Inquisition, remember? There are no crimes involved here, it's a policy review of events in the months/years before 9/11. You guys appear to be too self-involved in having the commission work to achieve your political goals.
     
  4. yossarian

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    #4 yossarian, Apr 4, 2004
    It's certainly not and inquisition but c'mon, even you have to admit it seems rather silly that they have to testify together. It makes Bush look like he can't speak for himself.
     
  5. oman

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    #5 oman, Apr 4, 2004
    Look, not even Ian has ever argued that GWB is anything more than a guy with average intelligence who probably could not be trusted to perform well in a forum like this.

    Right, Ian. Your point about inquisition is well taken, but let's just be honest -- Cheney and the handlers think he is going to ******** this up if he is by himself.
     
  6. Northcal19

    Northcal19 New Member

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    #6 Northcal19, Apr 4, 2004
    This guy is supposed to be the leader of the free world. It is simply embarrassing, that he (Bush) would let this happen. He is a bigger numb nut than I thought.
     
  7. nicephoras

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    #7 nicephoras, Apr 4, 2004
    Really? You honestly thought he was smarter than this????
     
  8. nsa

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    #8 nsa, Apr 4, 2004
    Support from a former president

    THEODORE ROOSEVELT, “Lincoln and Free Speech,” The Great Adventure (vol. 19 of The Works of Theodore Roosevelt, national ed.), chapter 7, p. 289 (1926).
     
  9. speedcake

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    #9 speedcake, Apr 5, 2004
    That is the saddest little part. The American public at large is not going to bat an eye.

    In fact, I'm much more willing to bet that we eat the appearance up.
     
  10. Sneever Flion

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    #10 Sneever Flion, Apr 5, 2004
    Who's we? You have a mouse in your pocket? (insert obligatory smiley for those who need it.)
     
  11. Mel Brennan

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    #11 Mel Brennan, Apr 5, 2004
    Re: Support from a former president

    And, in the light of that call for truth, some more truth about Teddy:

    "...I don't go so far as to think that the only good Indians are dead Indians, but I believe nine out of ten are, and I shouldn't inquire too closely in the case of the tenth. The most vicious cowboy has more moral principle than the average Indian..."

    - 1886
     
  12. Sneever Flion

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    #12 Sneever Flion, Apr 5, 2004
    Re: Support from a former president

    They didn't have sensitivity training back then.
     
  13. Mel Brennan

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    #13 Mel Brennan, Apr 5, 2004
    Re: Support from a former president


    Well, my quote is from 1886 and the other one is from 1926, so let's allow for Teddy's growth INTO a person with something meaningful to say, the same way I do for Abraham Lincoln and Malcolm X.

    But let's not act like these three started out - in terms of their respective debuts on the national and world stages - with deep, rigourous, nationally transformative thinking; they CAME to these ideas mainly after bearing witness, mainly to lots of death and pain; they grew up.
     
  14. Sneever Flion

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    #14 Sneever Flion, Apr 5, 2004
    Re: Support from a former president

    No one's born with the right answers. Thankfully these men were strong enough to learn from their mistakes. Many can't or won't.
     
  15. Mel Brennan

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    #15 Mel Brennan, Apr 5, 2004
    Re: Support from a former president

    I agree. In addition I hope that we as the great unwashed comsumers of ideas and seeming embracers to such cult of personality will, upon such state, regional, national, or global propagation of any future foolish ideas, call them to task instead of waiting for these folks to figure it out on their own...

    As you say, many can't or won't; they (BushCo.?) need our help.
     
  16. speedcake

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    #16 speedcake, Apr 5, 2004
    I'll never tell!
     
  17. Sneever Flion

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    #17 Sneever Flion, Apr 5, 2004
    Re: Support from a former president

    I'm not sure they want it. Consider their track record for blantantly ignoring the facts presented before them. Are these the kind of men you would expect to alter course this late in their lives?

    We're in a full blown war of ideas. And there seems to be no shortage of casualties. Worse yet, there seems to be no unsullied form of medium to share those ideas. It's the agenda that has deteriorated the debate, not fostered it.

    Ultimately, history will decide the content of BushCo's presidency. As of right now, things aren't lookin' too rosey.
     
  18. Dan Loney

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    #18 Dan Loney, Apr 5, 2004
    Re: Support from a former president

    As long as everyone is under oath, I don't think in this case it matters if they testify together. I don't think Rice, Cheney or Bush were in the same room together for a while afterwards, so rather than have the Commissioners ask the same questions over and over, the person who knows the answer can speak up.

    It's unusual, but I don't think it's as embarrassing as refusing to testify under oath until the thumbscrews were brought out.
     
  19. Finnegan

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    #19 Finnegan, Apr 5, 2004
    It is my understanding that Bush and Cheney will NOT be under oath.
     
  20. Sneever Flion

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    #20 Sneever Flion, Apr 5, 2004
    Re: Support from a former president

    Good point. But I would like to see this president defend his policies without the sound bites.

    And I undestand what you're saying concerning the issue of testifying together, but as Finnegan pointed out, they may not be under oath. If that's true, than what the hell is the point. They'll be under no obligation to tell the truth, as if that matters anyway. But still.
     
  21. Norsk Troll

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    #21 Norsk Troll, Apr 5, 2004
    I for one will be eagerly trying my darndest to see if I can spot the strings.
     
  22. Jacen McCullough

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    #22 Jacen McCullough, Apr 5, 2004
    Play their own game right back at them. Demand that they testify seperately due to security reasons. :) We can't risk the possibility of losing them both in a terrorist attack! Orange Alert!!!!!!!
     
  23. Dan Loney

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    #23 Dan Loney, Apr 5, 2004
    You gotta be shitting me.
     
  24. Finnegan

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    #24 Finnegan, Apr 5, 2004
    I don't think so...

    The question as to whether or not Bush will testify under oath still remains to be answered. Following is an excerpt from a White House press briefing with Scott McClellan from February 23, 2004:



    Q Would it be inappropriate, in your view, in the President's view, for him to offer testimony under oath to this commission?


    MR. McCLELLAN: Well, look, the President will be pleased to talk to them in a private session. And that's where it stands right now.


    Q So you're not answering the oath question?


    MR. McCLELLAN: I'm sorry?


    Q You're not -- does he think it's inappropriate to be under oath for something like this?


    MR. McCLELLAN: The President is going to share with [the Commission] what information he knows, and he's pleased to do it.


    Q So he'll do it under oath, if necessary?


    MR. McCLELLAN: I don't know if that's necessary. I think he can accomplish it all in private meeting, and provide the commission the necessary information in that format.


    Q But he's -- but he's against anything being made public?


    MR. McCLELLAN: Well, I don't know that I said that. They will obviously have a private meeting with him and have an opportunity to discuss with the President information that is relevant to their work.


    Q Can they share that testimony then?


    MR. McCLELLAN: And we're working all the details. I don't know the specifics, David, of all the details that are involved in this. Obviously, we still are able -- we're still working to discuss those details with them. But, certainly, this is information that they would use in preparing their report to the American people. So I expect that they would share information.
     
  25. TheSlipperyOne

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    #25 TheSlipperyOne, Apr 5, 2004
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