Classical music

Discussion in 'Movies, TV and Music' started by MT323, Jan 29, 2008.

  1. MT323

    MT323 New Member

    Dec 12, 2007
    NYC'burbs/Cincinnati
    Anyone here into it?
     
  2. metroflip73

    metroflip73 Member

    Mar 3, 2000
    NYC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Obvious ones:

    Brandenburg Concertos-JS Bach
    Music of the Royal Fireworks-GF Handel
    The Four Seasons-Vivaldi

    Those are just some that I have on my Nano. I grew up playing piano, so I am cool with it.
     
  3. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
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  4. Claymore

    Claymore Member

    Jul 9, 2000
    Montgomery Vlg, MD
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    DC United
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    big time.
     
  5. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
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    New York Red Bulls
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    More into romantic period myself, but classical is nice.
     
  6. royalstilton

    royalstilton Member

    Aug 2, 2004
    SoCal
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    I have my favorites:

    Vaughan Williams: "A Sea Symphony" and "Fantasia on a theme of Thomas Tallis"
    Liszt: "Les Preludes"
    Gesualdo: "Madrigals" and "Tenebrae"
    Tenebrae
    Faure, Ravel, Debussy ( various )
    Tchaikovsky: "Pathetique", "Romeo & Juliet Overture", "Song Without Words", etc )
    Shostakovich: 5th and 8th Symphonies especially
    Brahms: "German Requiem"
    Elgar: "E minor Cello Concerto"
    Prokofiev: "March from Love of Three Oranges", "Peter and the Wolf" ( sorry! ), "Symphony #7 in C sharp minor".
    Most of Beethoven
    Most of Rimsky-Korsakov
    Bach: Goldberg Variations, but little else
    Mozart: a thing or two, here and there:)
     
  7. ForeverRed

    ForeverRed Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
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    Germany
    My absolute favorite, paricularly the Second and Fourth Movements.
     
  8. MT323

    MT323 New Member

    Dec 12, 2007
    NYC'burbs/Cincinnati
    I'm one for #10 in e minor. The second movement is quite intense.

    Has anyone heard the Chicago Symphony's recording of Respighi's Pines of Rome under Fritz Reiner? The brass is absolutely stellar, as expected from Chicago.
     
  9. royalstilton

    royalstilton Member

    Aug 2, 2004
    SoCal
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    actually, yeah.

    btw, i have 5 recordings of Shostakovich's 5th Symphony. only one on vinyl, the older Bernstein.

    overkill, but what can i say?

    (programme note: possibly cloying human interest story follows):

    when my dad was alive, we used to watch a TV quiz show, College Bowl, on Sunday afternoons. one time, there was an audio question where they played the first few notes of a piece of music, Shostakovich's 5th Symphony, and i identified it in 2 notes. :) not that difficult, as you all know.

    it was my dad's favorite, too. i enjoy remembering that moment.
     
  10. Sachsen

    Sachsen Member+

    Aug 8, 2003
    Broken Arrow, Okla.
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    Sporting Kansas City
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    :eek:

    Heresy!

    I'm partial to baroque and late 19th/early 20th century. Bach, Handel, Vivaldi, etc. are all great - for more modern I go with Vaughan Williams, Sibelius, Respighi, Copland, Hovhaness...

    I do generally like the 19th century "classicists" - Beethoven, Brahms, Mendelssohn, Schumann...

    Generally can't stand the bleeding heart liberalism of Liszt, Wagner, Berlioz, et al. Freakin' crybabies.

    But in the end, I always go back to Bach. The cantatas, the organ music, the Brandenburgs, the solo string sonatas, the St Matthew Passion, the Well-Tempered Clavier, the list goes on and on and on...
     
  11. Norsk Troll

    Norsk Troll Member+

    Sep 7, 2000
    Central NJ
  12. royalstilton

    royalstilton Member

    Aug 2, 2004
    SoCal
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    i respect Bach's genius, but i don't enjoy the music that much. his music doesn't have the melodic appeal that many of my favorite composers develop. but, i like The Carpenters, so what does that tell you?
     
  13. Sachsen

    Sachsen Member+

    Aug 8, 2003
    Broken Arrow, Okla.
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    Sporting Kansas City
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    I like the Carpenters too. ;)

    You are correct that much of Bach's music is more... cerebral, for lack of a better word. But melodic appeal is there too! I suggest:

    the Goldbergs, of course
    the Brandenburg Concertos
    the Orchestral Suites
    lots of keyboard music including the French Overture and Italian Concerto
    the arias, vocal chorales and choruses from the cantatas and passions
    the organ trio sonatas
    lots of chamber music like the gamba sonatas, the recorder sonatas, the cello suites, etc.
    ...

    Seriously, try it again. Once you go Bach, everything else is just window dressing. :D
     
  14. Norsk Troll

    Norsk Troll Member+

    Sep 7, 2000
    Central NJ
    As royalstilton may recall - he and I part ways on the usual topics we discuss, but we're much closer when it comes to music (Carpenters aside): Bach is far down on my list as well.
     
  15. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I like orchestral music, but outside of medieval choral music I find anything not written in the 20th century boring. Even if it's the first time I heard it, older pieces sound cliché. I happen to like many modern film soundtracks.

    Vaughn Williams' "Lark Ascending" is a particular favorite.
     
  16. royalstilton

    royalstilton Member

    Aug 2, 2004
    SoCal
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    we...part...company???:)
     
  17. Sachsen

    Sachsen Member+

    Aug 8, 2003
    Broken Arrow, Okla.
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    Sporting Kansas City
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    United States
    Two thumbs WAY up.

    The CD currently in my bedside alarm clock (which I've been waking up to the last week or two) is the London Symphony, the Tallis Fantasia, and the Norfolk Rhapsody.

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  18. royalstilton

    royalstilton Member

    Aug 2, 2004
    SoCal
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    I just spent about 20 minutes listening to snippets of Bach on youtube...admittedly not the best venue fer critical appraisal. Having said that, I think I have identified my principal aesthetic problem with Bach, and interestingly enough, it's the same thing I don't like about Whitney Houston. Maybe it's not Bach himself, but rather the way the baroque interpreters play his music, but it's frilly. There are little flourishes here and there that drive me crazy. OK, so you can play a little finger trill on the E string. Excellent! That may have been how it was written, but it's showing off, and I hate it.

    Whitney Houston has absolutely amaaaaaazing pipes, but here she is singing TSSB:

    [youtube]qciWEufZ2xA[/youtube]

    Listen to her reading of "o'er the ramparts..." and "banner yet wave". It's self-conscious. "Look what I can do," she is saying.

    I know it's "raised in the choir" gospel-style riffing, but it turns the singing into a performance that is less about the song and more about Whitney. Ick.

    I heard "Air on the G string" by Sarah Chang (w/ headphones ) which has none of this "goofing around" until the very end.

    [youtube]qOVwokQnV4M[/youtube]

    Her opening attack is amazing. Simple. Understated. She loves this piece.

    And while I was looking around I found Slava Kagan-Paley's "Air..."

    [youtube]wN0T4E9uDTI[/youtube]

    Maybe I need to listen to more Bach. :)
     
  19. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
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    Philadelphia Union
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    Actually, it is Bach himself. JSB wrote in the ornamentation where he wanted it and supposedly did not like additional ornamentation added that he didn't write. This was in contrast to the performance standards of the day, in which there were unwritten rules for embellishment and augmentation.

    Whatever you do, royalstilton, stay away from French baroque. That's so heavily ornamented that you can't tell what the actual melody is. :)
     
  20. royalstilton

    royalstilton Member

    Aug 2, 2004
    SoCal
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    i like some French cheese. it's relatively unornamented.

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