Outside the big 6 leagues of Spain, Italy, England, Germany, France and the Netherlands, how are the top teams doing for the CL and Uefa spots? Any surprises or upsets brewing here? Turkey #1 is direct to CL group, #2 is CL 3rd round qualifying, Next 3 get UEFA. thru 17/34 games 1) Besiktas -- 38 pts 2) Galatasaray -- 36 pts 3) Genclerbirligi -- 34 pts 4) Fenerbahce -- 32 pts 5) Gaziantepspor -- 30 pts 6) Trabzonspor -- 30 pts Greece #1 is direct to CL group, #2 is CL 3rd round qualifying, Next 3 get UEFA. thru 11/30 games 1) Olympiakos -- 23 pts 2) Aris -- 21 pts 3) PAOK -- 21 pts 4) Panathinaikos -- 20 pts 5) AEK Athens -- 18 pts 6) Iraklis -- 18 pts Russia Lok. Moscow returns to the CL next year and CSKA takes 2nd to get the qualifying spot knocking Spartak down to the Uefa Cup qualifying. The next 6 leagues get the champion into the CL 3rd round qualifying and the runner-up into the CL 2nd round qualifying. 3rd place goes into Uefa Cup qualifying. Portugal thru 14 or 15 games 1) Porto -- 36 pts 2) Benfica -- 32 pts 3) Guimaraes -- 26 pts 4) Sporting -- 25 pts 5) Varzim -- 25 pts 6) Belenenses -- 23 pts Czech Republic thru 15 games 1) Sparta -- 36 pts 2) Slavia -- 32 pts 3) Teplice -- 28 pts 4) Liberec -- 26 pts 5) Banik -- 24 pts 6) Viktoria Zizkov -- 24 pts Belgium thru 16 games 1) Club Brugge -- 43 pts 2) Anderlecht -- 32 pts 3) Sint-Truiden -- 31 pts 4) Lokeren -- 31 pts 5) Genk -- 29 pts 6) Lierse -- 29 pts Ukraine thru 15 games 1) Shakhtar -- 38 pts 2) Dnipro -- 35 pts 3) Arsenal -- 33 pts 4) Dynamo -- 33 pts 5) Metalurh -- 28 pts 6) Volyn -- 23 pts Austria thru 21 games 1) Austria -- 46 pts 2) Pasching -- 33 pts 3) Sturm Graz -- 33 pts 4) Ried -- 30 pts 5) Rapid -- 30 pts 6) Salzburg -- 27 pts Norway thru 26 games 1) Rosenborg -- 56 pts 2) Molde -- 50 pts 3) Lyn -- 47 pts 4) Viking -- 44 pts 5) Stabaek -- 42 pts 6) Odd -- 41 pts The next 11 leagues only get the champions into the 2nd round of qualifying for CL play. The first 6 get 2 spots in Uefa Cup qualifying and the last 5 only get 1 spot in Uefa Cup qualifying. Scotland thru 20 games 1) Rangers -- 54 pts 2) Celtic -- 50 pts 3) Dunfermline -- 33 pts 4) Hearts -- 30 pts Rangers ahead for return to CL chance. Switzerland thru 22 games 1) Grasshoppers -- 49 pts 2) Basel -- 47 pts 3) Thun -- 31 pts 4) Wil -- 31 pts This years cinderella Basel is just off the pace for a return. Croatia thru 17 games 1) Dinamo -- 42 pts 2) Hajduk -- 38 pts 3) Varteks -- 36 pts 4) Cibalia -- 28 pts Looks like its down to the top 3 here. Sweden thru 26 games 1) Djurgarden -- 52 pts 2) Malmo -- 46 pts 3) Orgryte -- 44 pts 4) Helsinborg -- 38 pts Poland thru 15 games 1) Wisla -- 33 pts 2) Katowice -- 32 pts 3) Legia -- 30 pts 4) Odra -- 28 pts Denmark thru 18 games 1) FCK -- 38 pts 2) Brondby -- 29 pts 3) Farum -- 27 pts 4) AaB -- 26 pts FCK look in charge here. Romania thru 15 games 1) Rapid -- 39 pts 2) Dinamo -- 29 pts 3) Steaua -- 25 pts Rapid look in charge here. Yugoslavia thru 17 games 1) Partizan -- 44 pts 2) Zeleznik -- 35 pts 3) Crvena Zvezda -- 34 pts Partizan look in charge here. Hungary thru 17 games 1) Ferencvaros -- 38 pts 2) MTK -- 38 pts 3) Ujpest -- 30 pts It's a two team race here. Slovakia thru 18 games 1) Slovan -- 39 pts 2) Spartak -- 31 pts 3) Zilina -- 30 pts Slovan look in charge here. Israel thru 13 games 1) M. Haifa -- 33 pts 2) H. Tel-Aviv -- 28 pts 3) M. Tel-Aviv -- 24 pts M. Haifa taking charge early here again.
The Netherlands has lost it 2nd automatic spot to Greece from the next season on, I thought. Turkey is below Holland in the ranking if I remember correctly, so they shouldn't have 3 spots. Couldn't find the last rankings, so I couldn't check to make sure
You could be right. I was going off of the Access List of UEFA Club Competitions which is an appendix to the 2002/03 CL Competition Rules. The 2003/04 Club Competitions Coefficient Rankings are published at http://www.uefa.com/avantgo/news,newsId=38404.html. IF the allocations are awarded strictly according to the place in the table, then there could be several changes... The top 5 are unchanged. Greece moved up from 8 to 6 to take Holland's spot and so they may get 2 group phase spots plus a 3rd round qualifying spot. Holland drops to 7 and may only get 1 automatic group slot and 1 3rd round qualifying spot. Turkey drops to 8, but there's no difference in spots between 7th and 8th -- and it's 2 CL spots -- the next 3 go to UEFA Cup. Portugal and Russia flip-flop 9th and 10th spots. In 02/03, 9th spot got an automatic group spot with the runner up going to 3rd round qualifying. 10th only got 3rd round qualifying and 2nd round qualifying spots, so maybe Portugal gets the automatic spot this year instead of Russia. The other big change from 02/03 to 03/04 of Scotland moved from 16th to 12th. 16th thru 26th spots only got 1 team into the 2nd qualifying round. The 12th spot gets 1 team into the 3rd qualifying round and 1 into the 2nd qualifying round. So Scotland may get both Rangers and Celtic into the CL qualifying this year. Norway was the one that dropped down.
Actually, if you look at the coefficients, Portugal is right there with Turkey, but well behind Greece and Holland. I think that the fact that they move ahead of Russia means that they get the automatic group phase spot rather than Russia. 1. Spain 68.467 2. Italy 58.668 3. England 55.459 4. Germany 52.99 5. France 42.352 6. Greece 36.116 7. Holland 34.165 8. Turkey 28.725 9. Portugal 28.249 10. Russia 27.291