Post-match: CL: Barcelona vs. Bayern München Leg 1

Discussion in 'Bayern Munich' started by ForeverRed, Apr 9, 2009.

  1. ForeverRed

    ForeverRed Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Ok.

    Continue the post match dejection here.
     
  2. Raumdeuter

    Raumdeuter Member+

    Jan 14, 2009
    Texas
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I think we should just sack Lell, ottl and co

    In my mind I would like us to buy Hleb for the right side and move schweini to the middle.

    Get a strong cntral defender maybe from Eastern Europe like Skrtel, Vidic and Ivanovic.

    Keep Ribery with our last blood, sell Luca and get Gomez. Sell Lucio too, We also need a new keeper Neuer or Adler
     
  3. ForeverRed

    ForeverRed Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    We have to finish out the season with the scraps we have unfortunately, as much as I would like Klinsmann to just promote a couple of youngsters and get on with them.
     
  4. footyfan1

    footyfan1 BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 20, 2003
    San Antonio, Texas
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kicker Player Ratings From The 8 April 2009 Match In Barcelona:


    Kicker Ratings Key:

    1: World Class/Superb

    2: International Class/Very Good

    3: Slightly Above Average/Decent

    4: Slightly Below Average/Bad

    5: Pretty Bad

    6: Completely Sucked/Should Find A New Profession

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Kicker Bayern Player Ratings


    Butt (4)


    Oddo (6)


    Demichelis (6)


    Breno (6)


    Lell (6)


    van Bommel (6)


    Schweinsteiger (5.5)


    Ze Roberto (5)


    Altintop (6)


    Ribery (5.5)


    Toni (5.5)


    Barca Ratings: Valdes (3), Alves (2.5), Marquez (2.5), Pique (3), Puyol (2), Xavi (1),
    Toure (2), Iniesta (1.5), Messi (1), Eto'o (2), Henry (1)



    Kicker's Man of the Match: Lionel Messi
     
  5. Boandlkramer

    Boandlkramer Member+

    Apr 9, 2009
    Samma Weltmeister!
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Anyway, we were just ouclassed and deserved to lose, a much as I hate it, the best team won last night.

    I expect the B team next tuesday as Klinsi has better odds of wining the Bundesliga. As such that will be the focus for the remainder of this season.

    Winning nothing will be Klinsi's demise.

    Back to the Game, shouldn't Henry have gotten carded for (accident or not) cleating Butt?
     
  6. footyfan1

    footyfan1 BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 20, 2003
    San Antonio, Texas
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    No. You don't get carded for a legal play just because someone got hurt.

    Think back to when Hasan Salihamidic injured Sebastian Kehl.

    Kehl suffered a horrible injury, but the play was legal. And the same thing happened with people calling for Salihamidic to get booked for a legal play just because Kehl got hurt.
     
  7. ForeverRed

    ForeverRed Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Did we really need to know the Kicker ratings for this match? :p
     
  8. Mateo07

    Mateo07 New Member

    Dec 9, 2008
    FC Barcelona - Bayern Munich

    Skills:

    Iniesta Dribble

    http://uploading.com/files/PYE33UGK/Iniesta Dribble Vs Bayern.avi.html

    Messi Dribble
    http://uploading.com/files/C5QLSZ8X/Messi Dribble Vs Bayern.avi.html

    Messi Panna (Replay)
    http://uploading.com/files/ONV64023/Messi Panna Vs Bayern (Replay).avi.html

    Ribery Run
    http://uploading.com/files/AWSV74LV/Ribery Run Vs Barcelona.avi.html

    Ribery Skills
    http://uploading.com/files/LKIFPIPR/Ribery Skills Vs Barcelona.avi.html

    Ribery Turn
    http://uploading.com/files/NI01TIBY/Ribery Turn Vs Barcelona.avi.html
     
  9. terrypk1

    terrypk1 Member

    Jan 13, 2008
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    sigh..
    in the end, all we can say is that we solely miss the character and the skills of OLIVER KAHN.
    with him, we would not have gone down like this.

    please someone needs to step up in this team.
     
  10. footyfan1

    footyfan1 BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 20, 2003
    San Antonio, Texas
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Uh, yeah, you would have...... :rolleyes:


    "terrypk", this is where the response stops being to your comments alone and becomes to Bayern fans in general.



    Sometimes some of you guys and people here where I live freakin' kill me with all this "It wouldn't have happened under Hitzfeld" or "This wouldn't have happened with Kahn" C-R-A-P, CRAP!

    An Ottmar Hitzfeld or an Oliver Kahn was not the difference between those two teams last night.

    It's not like Bayern has never been blown out with Hitzfeld coaching and Kahn in goal.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but was that not Hitzfeld on the coach's bench and Oliver Kahn picking balls out of the Bayern net when Zenit St. Petersburg slammed Bayern 4-0 just last season??? :rolleyes:


    I know you guys are probably sad and angry right now, but the difference between those two teams last night was pure class. Nothing more, nothing less.


    Barca put a world class team on the pitch. Bayern could only counter with what was, in my opinion, nearly a "C" team.


    No coach or any other goalkeeper would have made such a big difference.

    The only thing that would have made it better for Bayern would have been better field players, but with Lahm, Lucio, van Buyten and Klose all out, there wasn't really anything else you guys could do!

    I find it amazing that even the day after, some of you and others here in Germany are going at these guys as if they were a full-strength Bayern team!

    Get real guys. I don't care what your name is, if you go into the Nou Camp against a full-strength Barcelona side with just what was arguably a "C" team, you're more than likely going to get your asses kicked.

    That is true if you are Man U., Chelsea, Liverpool, Real Madrid or Bayern Muenchen!

    For those of you who are criticizing the perceived lack of effort, I can agree with you to a certain extent. I would have liked to have seen some players fight harder and they looked defeated after that second goal.

    But the major difference I saw after watching it during a "long lunch" ;), was that the Bayern team simply wasn't good enough.

    The one part I do agree with is Kahn's character. They did miss someone like that on the field last night, but I don't think it would have made that much of a difference.

    It didn't in St. Petersburg last season, did it???





    This, I agree with 100%. There is no on-the-field leadership on this team.
     
  11. NUFCBayern

    NUFCBayern Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 9, 2004
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    No doubt the first half was horrible.

    I didn't see the second half. Overall, did we really play that much worse than we played against Zenit in St. Petersburg last year?

    Judging from the first half, I'd say yes.
     
  12. ★ ☆ ★

    ★ ☆ ★ New Member

    Aug 28, 2008
    Republic of Vanuatu
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    I don't think it's as simple as that. For me the loss was inevitable, it's just the manner in which they lost which I think people are pissed at. It was simply disgusting to watch and these games are becoming far too frequent for my taste.
     
  13. Raumdeuter

    Raumdeuter Member+

    Jan 14, 2009
    Texas
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Hitzfeld would have made a whole lot of difference

    How many ridiculous scorelines did Hitzfeld get in his 8 years with Bayern?

    Klinsi under a season Lost 2-5 to Bremen They said that was the worst home defeat in a long year.

    Then lost 5-1 to Wolfsburg- The worst defeat in a long time, Now 4-0 in 45minutes to Barcelona.

    I am not looking forward to the return leg cos we might break all these records.

    Klinsmann sucks!!!!! I dont rate a coach by beating Lisbon.
    We have lost to most of Bundesligas big teams Hertha, Bremen, Leverkusen, Hamburg,
    Wolfsburg, all in one season we have conceded in 9 months the otal goals a typical Hitzfeld team would concede in 2 and half years.

    Sack Klinsi. Right now i dont mind Matthaus. He should come over
     
  14. footyfan1

    footyfan1 BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 20, 2003
    San Antonio, Texas
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    You just brutally murdered the credibility of everything else you said with this final sentence.........
     
  15. footyfan1

    footyfan1 BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 20, 2003
    San Antonio, Texas
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How many times did Hitzfeld line up with a roster as weak as the one Klinsmann has had most of this season??

    BTW, how many of you remember how many times Luca Toni saved your asses last season??

    Has Toni been in that kind of form?

    Ribery?

    But I guess that's all Klinsmann's fault too.

    Klinsmann is in no way a great coach, but this isn't all his f#cking fault either.

    But I realize that's what non-thinkers automatically go to.

    Sack the coach. :rolleyes:
     
  16. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Virginia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The problem isn't Klinsmann, its the players. He fielded the best 11 available, in the proper formation (a 4-5-1). I'm sure the tactical plan was to close down Barca in the midfield by playing a compact formation, and trying to hit them on the counter.

    The problem is not only do we lack the technical abilities to counter attack quickly, but we lacked the heart and fight necessary to close them down. We should have been right on them as soon as they touched the ball. There was never any pressure on the player with the ball at his feet. Not a recipe for success.
     
  17. footyfan1

    footyfan1 BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 20, 2003
    San Antonio, Texas
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    To be totally honest, some of them looked scared.

    And that's where I can see people saying the team lacked "character."

    Of course, as far as I'm concerned, that word "character" is just a nice way to say the team lacked "courage."

    I guess some of them really thought that it would be OK to "try not to lose too badly."

    But with pretty much a "C" team against a full-strength Barca side, they really didn't have too much of a chance and it looked like they knew it.

    I'll you what, I wouldn't want to be Eintracht Frankfurt right at this moment.........
     
  18. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  19. ★ ☆ ★

    ★ ☆ ★ New Member

    Aug 28, 2008
    Republic of Vanuatu
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
  20. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Which kinda echoes their performance on the pitch as well...
     
  21. ★ ☆ ★

    ★ ☆ ★ New Member

    Aug 28, 2008
    Republic of Vanuatu
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Dum dum dum.... :eek:
     
  22. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    [​IMG]
     
  23. shealygg

    shealygg Member

    Jul 5, 2008
    South Carolina
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  24. footyfan1

    footyfan1 BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 20, 2003
    San Antonio, Texas
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  25. footyfan1

    footyfan1 BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 20, 2003
    San Antonio, Texas
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I agree, but as I just posted, KHR declared this over last night too, so are van Dumbass' words really that offensive to you???

    If so, should KHR be fired from management too??
     

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