Christmas Time: MP3 Player Reviews

Discussion in 'Technology' started by Chicago1871, Nov 17, 2004.

  1. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
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    Sep 9, 2002
    i'm happy with my ipod
     
  3. X X I

    X X I Red Card

    Apr 9, 2004
    I'd say iPod, even if the battery life does suck (at least my 10GB does). But it has the easiest interface to use, looks the nicest, iTunes was made for it and iTunes is amazing, it's small, and it's light. Yeah, and don't get anything less than 15GB.
     
  4. Metros Striker10

    Metros Striker10 New Member

    Jul 7, 2001
    Planet Earth
    True, but not many people really need 15G+ of space. Othewise they wouldn't make them. 5G and 20G are the new standards now.

    Anyone know about the quality of the DELL DJ Pocket? It looks like solid player and more than enough for the casual listener. Also, are those sites that the have selling the players reliable? I know for them to be there they must be good, but you can't compare them to a bestbuy.com for instance.

    Here's Cnet's review of the Zen Micro..it's the video for it and if you play around, you'll find the reviews of other players and their videos (only a few have the video feature..the good ones)

    http://reviews.cnet.com/Creative_Zen_Micro__5GB__silver_/4535-6490_7-31151927.html?tag=tab
     
  5. X X I

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    Apr 9, 2004
    :confused:

    And 20 gigs > 15 gigs. So you're proving my point by saying that 20 gigs is the new standard. I don't understand what point you're trying to make, lol. ;)
     
  6. Premium Hamatachi redded

    Sep 9, 2002
    for me 5 gb is more than enough because i don't ruthlessly put crappy music for no reason. i only put what i really need
     
  7. X X I

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    Apr 9, 2004
    There's gigs upon gigs upon gigs of great music. There's no way I can fit all that I listen to on 5. I can't everything I want on 10.
     
  8. patrickdavila

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    This looks like a pretty cool toy:
    http://www.neurosaudio.com/

    Besides mp3 it also supports ogg, wma and wav files. It has a built in FM
    tuner which you can record to wav or mp3. You can also record using a mic
    via the line-in input and transmit music to a standard FM reciever for
    playback through a stereo.

    The prices:
    20 Gig - $249
    30 Gig - $279
    40 Gig - $329
    60 Gig - $399
    80 Gig- $449

    Supposedly more codecs (FLAC) will be added in the firmware upgrades.
     
  9. Metros Striker10

    Metros Striker10 New Member

    Jul 7, 2001
    Planet Earth
    The thing is, that there are people like myself, who kinda get tired of listening to the same song over and over again. I personally like that song Lean Back by Fat Joe, but after listening to it 10 times, I don't want to be anywhere near a radio that's playing it. I also get tired of listening to the same CD a few times in a row, so why not delete the songs of one CD and put in the ones of another? I agree that it'll be less "work" with the 20 gig, but soem just plain and simple don't want to spend a lot of money on it because an MP3 player isn't their top thing one their priority list.

    In order to prevent argument on music choice: My opinion on what's "good" and "bad" is pretty different from your's, I'm sure, but I'm just giving an example. :)
     
  10. Fleetwood Mac #1

    Fleetwood Mac #1 New Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Queens, NY
    If your budget is around $300 I recommend this 20GB multimedia (audio, picture, video) jukebox.

    http://www.dealtime.com/xPF-Archos_AV120_21778404

    You can also record TV shows directly with a video recorder module that comes with it. I bought one this August and am really enjoying it!
     
  11. Squash

    Squash Member

    Mar 8, 2003
    I've had a 1st generation ipod since about 2 weeks after they came out. There is a reason it's the best selling portable player. The combination of itunes and the ipod is unmatched. Yes there are cheaper versions of mp3 players out there, but NONE compare.

    Once you use itunes, itunes music store, and an ipod you'll simply be disappointed by any other player. It's that simple. This has been a free advertisement by a mac user
     
  12. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
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    From what I've read the feature of the iPod are tops (or near tops), but the sound quality is low compared to other players. Anyone able to comment on this as I really don't give a rats ass about the iTunes thing, but would like a player with good-high quality sound.
     
  13. Squash

    Squash Member

    Mar 8, 2003
    Chicago...the sound isn't an issue. It's a choice of what quality you want to compress your music at. That's totally up to you as the user. All you have to do is choose a higher quality. Myself i prefer 192 or above, because 128 sounds good, but not great to me.

    The larger the number though, the larger amount of space they take up. Not like i care since i have a 10gb player and change my playlist every couple months or so anyways.

    You will care about itunes if you get an ipod, it makes life much easier and is what really completes the whole user experience. The other issue with sound quality is the headphone and that pllies to all players. I happen to think the ear buds are okay, but i also have a nice set of sennheisser headphones too.
     
  14. Metros Striker10

    Metros Striker10 New Member

    Jul 7, 2001
    Planet Earth
    Yeah, 128 just doesn't do it. 192 should be the standard for quality MP3s.

    I've got a question about the battery life. How much life (durability) does the battery have? Will it give me 10 or so hours for 10 years? Or will they just die after a few years due to memory and force you to buy a new battery? I think all of them are the Lithum kind so that shouldn't be much of a problem. But if you wish to have a longer life span, should one drain out all of it's energy and then recharge?
     
  15. Squash

    Squash Member

    Mar 8, 2003
    I think the batteries all vary. I've had mine about 3 years and use it on a regular basis. I just charge mine every other day or so depending on use. I've had no issues, but as you know some people have. They do have replacement batteries for the ipods, but after 3 years if mine dies, i have no issue buying a new ipod. I've definitely gotten the use out of it.

    The newer ones say 10 hours before charging,(depends on settings) mine being an old one is probably more like 6 hours of straight use, but it beats the hell out of the old battery buying i used to do with my old walkman, and it beats the hell out of the rechargable batteries i had for it on life span.

    I've been more than happy with everything about my ipod. i bought it at CompUSA, because i got their extended warranty of like 3 years if something went wrong. I'm not a huge CompUSA fan, but because i was worried about quality being a 1st generation ipod, i wanted more than the 1 year apple offered. They offer a no questions asked if it is broken...I've never used it, but i felt better paying the extra $50 or so....was cheap.
     
  16. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
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    The more research I do, the tougher the decision gets. The MP3 player field has some very nice options, each with certain features or areas that put them near the top. iPod seems to be the standard, but I've found that is more because they're one of the first and did, in fact, set the standard. As much as I want to differentiate myself by getting another player, the iPod does have many highly ranked qualities. If the 192 compression rate does increase the quality of the music, then tack one more thing to positive side of the board for iPod. Still going to keep digging.
     
  17. scd84

    scd84 Member

    Jan 1, 2003
    Columbus
    I just ordered my Zen Touch 20GB. The $100 savings versus an iPod were very important to me, but just as important is the sound quality (very highly rated) and battery life. The real key was the ~24 hours on one charge, which will be very nice. Full review will be here in 2-4 days.
     
  18. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
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    Looking forward to this review as the Zen is my top option to date.
     
  19. Metros Striker10

    Metros Striker10 New Member

    Jul 7, 2001
    Planet Earth
    Yeah, I've been looking at Creative...I've read some very good reviews on their sound quality.

    What has me confused here with Creative is that Walmart (pretty good line of players actually) is selling the 30 gig one for $174.63 and it's 40 gig is at $218.00 (not including $20 rebate). The 4 gig Creative Muvo2 is at $198.82 (not including the $50 rebate). How can this be? A 4 gig is more expensive than the 30 gig? 30 gigs for less than 200 bucks? Could it be possible that the 4 gig will drop to like 100 bucks within the next fwe months given that the Tough has been released? Maybe the price drop is due to it's possible plan on eliminating the Muvo player and replacing it with the Touch??
     
  20. Squash

    Squash Member

    Mar 8, 2003
    I'd suggest going to an apple store or compusa or anywhere you can touch and feel an ipod. Use the interface, listen to them...most have songs loaded on them. Then realize that the computer interface is as good or better than the user interface of the ipod itself. It's basically a seemless computer hook-up and everything about it makes it worth a bit more. It's the best seeling player for a reason. If you stop reading reviews and go and see for yourself, you'll realize that nothing compares. yes there are cheaper players, yes some state longer battery life, but I'm telling you...none are even close to the ease of use or simplicity you'll get out of an ipod.

    Go and play with an ipod, and you'll be sold.

    Striker....depending on the size/thickness of HD the price can be more. The smaller ones tend to be ultra thin, so they cost more....it's a size/form factor issue. People tend to like small small things, that hold a lot. That costs a premium.
     
  21. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
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    The Muvo is a different technology if I remember correctly. But I'm not sure. Creative's website explains things in detail.
     
  22. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
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    I think I may take that advice. But as with most things on BigSoccer I take your advice with a grain of salt. I'm curious what, if any experience you have with other MP3 technology. Don't take it personally, I'm just a very thorough researcher.
     
  23. scd84

    scd84 Member

    Jan 1, 2003
    Columbus
    I've listened to the iPod and the NOMAD (predecessor to the Zen Touch) and there is clear difference in quality, as long as you use better headphones than the stuff they give you free. I could not be less concerned about interface. I know that makes me a minority but I am just more worried about quality of sound and battery life. I can get used to any interface (I used MiniDisc for a couple years) but in the end when I'm relaxing listening to music I won't be thinking about whether I used a click wheel or a verticle touch strip to get to that music. But that's just my take. I still haven't gotten my Zen Touch so we'll see if it can stand up to the one on one test versus my roommate's iPod 4th Generation.
     
  24. Squash

    Squash Member

    Mar 8, 2003
    scd..not to discount what you say about sound quality, but most ipods and people that use them unfortunately import them at 128...that's not high quality in my opinion. You have options of importing and I'd suggest 192 or above..they say 320 the quality get's good. It's not the player my friend it's the compression.

    Enjoy the link and I'd trust audiophile as a sound source over anyone including myself. They have a respectable reputation with hi-end music components and they recommend ipods...so I'd say the quality can be as high as the sky, it's a choice of what rate you import cd's at.

    http://www.stereophile.com//digitalsourcereviews/934/index.html
     
  25. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
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    To play Devils Advocate, my first question of the write would be, "have you tested any other MP3 players on the market?" It would appear that the writer owns an iPod and didn't test several players like reviews found on ZDnet.

    Added note on the Zen Touch: apparently while it's interface is quite good it might not allow for the creation of playlists (a big negative in my mind). This was only said once by a reviewer, and I have not found any information to back that statement up or refute it...more information forthcoming (also another reason I am looking forward to scd's review).
     

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