Christian Pulisic Thread

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by ussoccer97531, Oct 21, 2015.

  1. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Domestic players minutes in top flight

    Spain 349,629
    Germany 201,888
    Italy 194,233
    France 174,026
    England 155,017
     
  2. KALM

    KALM Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Boston/Providence
    One thing that complicates the narrative about Leonardo ruining Tab's chance to play in La Liga is that it appears Ramos had been benched for almost all of the 2nd half of the season during Betis's promotion push. He only appeared in 3 of their last 17 games of the season leading up to the World Cup. (He did miss a significant chunk of the season before that with injury from January to May in 1993, but I don't see any reports of similar injuries in the months leading up to the World Cup in '94.)

    If Leonardo hadn't injured him, he might have played some minutes in La Liga. But it doesn't look like he would have been a regular with them.
     
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  3. Papin

    Papin BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 19, 1998
    le côté obscur
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So he was the Gio Reyna of his time?
     
  4. Seanin

    Seanin Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    Gio’s record of accomplishment is actually far greater. But they are similar in that both players promised an end to the American fan’s deepest insecurities.

    Someone corrected me above: of course, Freddy Adu was the MOST overrated, and did far less than Ramos, not withstanding hype that was an order of magnitude greater.
     
  5. Papin

    Papin BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 19, 1998
    le côté obscur
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Both players a cut above the rest of the national team pool (of their times) in terms of skill and creativity, both struggling with injuries, both failing to get significant playing time in the run up to a world cup.
     
  6. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Arguments about whether a player is overrated or underrated are like arguments about what integer represents X in X+Y=15.

    You can’t answer the question unless you know what Y is. Y is how a player is “rated” so you have to define it first.

    Here endeth the lesson.

    I’d be the party pooper on those sports panel shows where 4 people argue about stuff.
     
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  7. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it's more like X+Y=Messi when you can't define + or =
     
  8. GoodHands

    GoodHands Member+

    AC Milan
    United States
    Jul 17, 2024
    Well some good news, maybe, regarding Pulisic. He came in off the bench and promptly set up the winning goal. It is his first contribution to a goal in 2026 and it is a starting place for him to build on.
    A goal or two would have been better but he really looked good on the assist. He also had a chance to score late and he forced a good save from the 'keeper.

    Now he has something to build on for the WC. I just wish it would have happened a few months ago so he could have used the remaining time to fully get his grove back.
     
  9. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #8034 falvo, May 17, 2026
    Last edited: May 17, 2026
    Genoa-Milan 1-2, le pagelle della partita di Serie A | Sky Sport

    subentrato
    C.Pulisic
    6.5

    Genoa-Milan 1-2, pagelle e tabellino: Nkunku la sblocca, Athekame la chiude, Jashari gira a vuoto, grave l'errore di Amorim, Colombo non punge | Goal.com Italia

    MILAN (3-5-2): Maignan 6,5; Tomori 6 (76' De Winter 6), Gabbia 6, Pavlovic 6,5; Athekame 7, Fofana 5,5 (68' Ricci 6), Jashari 5 (86' Loftus-Cheek sv), Rabiot 5,5, Bartesaghi 6; Gimenez 5 (68' Fullkrug 5,5), Nkunku 7 (76' Pulisic 6,5). All. Allegri.
     
  10. BMWDeuce

    BMWDeuce Member

    AC Milan
    United States
    Aug 15, 2024
    Allegri may not be back FWIW. Milan is probably revamping it's entire sporting department
     
  11. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    He’s an undersized winger fast approaching 28. The smart move is a long-term deal in MLS.
     
  12. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    Sounds like he may need to come up with a calf strain for that last game.
     
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  13. GoodHands

    GoodHands Member+

    AC Milan
    United States
    Jul 17, 2024
    If this is true, and I really have no reason to suspect that it is not, then Milan is either looking to change personnel in order to change their system or they see the players involved as negative presences or they are behaving extremely stupidly. I tend to think that it is a combo of the first and the third.
    Also, if this is true, then by making this public at this time they have already ruined the players involved futures with the team.
    Milan has played so EXTREMLY conservatively this year that I believe that it is Milan and not the players that is the real problem.
    Milan still has one more match and they, from what I understand, need at least some result to finalize their CL position and it is hard to believe that any team would be so stupid as to alienate their best players just before an important match. They may feel that they do not need anything from the players involved as they are playing a very very week team but that still implies extreme stupidity.
    Again, if true, this may actually be good for Pulisic as the Milan style, or lack thereof, does not bring out his best. That is also true for Leao as he needs freedom to produce at his best and Milan has been playing like they are more afraid of winning than they are afraid of losing.
    But this does show a HUGE lack of character from Milan.
    Maybe Pulisic can go to another Italian team but I think it could be better to change leagues. I do not think he should move to MLS as it would be too dangerous with his tendency to injury with slow recovery.
    Germany or Spain might be good destinations as would "some" teams in the Premier league but not teams like Manchester United or City or Liverpool or the other teams that put players welfare below just about all other considerations.

    Actually my hope is this is a case of some innocuous remark being misinterpreted by a reporter that is not concerned with accuracy but is only looking for headlines.

    One thing, if this is true and Pulisic does move to MLS then I would be much more likely to watch MLS matches more often. It would make my viewing much simpler but, I do think, it would be more expensive for me. But I do not know if whatever MLS uses now as a season pass is very expensive and i do not know if I can watch all MLS matches, or even one team's full schedule, without an Apple device in my home as I flatly refuse to allow overpriced Apple garbage in my home.

    I guess it is best to wait and see the level of truth in this and make decissions from there.
     
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  14. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Occams razor suggests Ibra's a fecking knob.
    Puli should be wanting out anyway.
     
  15. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If he is looking for the big bag yeah.I could see him thinking he could contribute to a top side still though.
     
  16. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT
  17. Bajoro

    Bajoro Member+

    Sep 10, 2000
    The Inland Empire
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like it!
     
  18. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
  19. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can’t tell if this is serious or not.
     
  20. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  21. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    It could be true.

    In listening to Radio Sportiva in Italy, there are lot or departures come the end of the season.
     
  22. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hard to believe it's true knowing they still need a result and likely need some of those players to get it.
     
  23. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    Are you of the opinion that the big MLS contract will be available to him in three or four years? I don’t think it will be. Wingers age out of the game at a relatively young age. If I were him I’d try to get a massive contract from a club in MLS this summer.
     

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