Christian Pulisic Thread

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by ussoccer97531, Oct 21, 2015.

  1. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    1286061390843842560 is not a valid tweet id
     
  2. GoBigBlue88

    GoBigBlue88 Member+

    Feb 11, 2009
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Maybe Lampard will realize sitting him 2 consecutive matches is, I don't know, incredibly dumb?
     
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  3. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    The keys to Pulisic right now with the national team:

    1. The United States needs to take immediate action to suppress coronavirus* so that the national team can resume international play ASAP, because we need to get this guy on the field.

    *This should have been happening 4 months ago.
     
  4. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well there’s this thing called an injury that cause Pulisic to sit the FA cup game (that they won handily). What Frank really needs to do is stop running the exact same team and tactics out after a win on a short turn around. Tactics didn’t match up against against Pool like they did United.

    Pulisic def should have started and played but if you’re gonna talk ish at least get it right man.
     
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  5. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    After winning games with a back 3 Lampard has, for whatever reason, consistently rolled out the same formation again back to back in the following games. It's been a consistent pattern. (It's one of the reasons I remain unsold on him as a manager.)
     
  6. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who would have thought Frank Lampard would have learned lineups from Bruce Arena??
     
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  7. GoBigBlue88

    GoBigBlue88 Member+

    Feb 11, 2009
    Club:
    AC Milan
    That injury in no way affected his fitness vs Liverpool. He could have played vs ManU but didn't. To reach 100% fitness. Which he did. And still came off the bench, in a key match.

    I know what I'm talking about. Lampard sat him unnecessarily and got it wrong.
     
  8. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Havertz, Werner, Pulisic, Giroud, Zyech, Kovacic.

    Marina! Spare a thought for the defense.
     
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  9. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chelsea badly needs a new keeper. Why they don’t really appear to be going after someone like Onana is baffling.
     
  10. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Reportedly, they're going to first need to move out a number of players.
     
  11. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    There are lots of rumors about Chelsea pursuing keepers. Clubs can pursue multiple players at once.
     
  12. honest trade

    honest trade Member

    Aug 15, 2010
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kepa didn’t even react to 3 of the 5 goals. He’s statistically the worst keeper in the league this season. An average keeper would be a significant upgrade.
     
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  13. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As my old high school (American) football coach used to tell us before games, "They don't score, they don't win".

    Chelsea can't expect to score 3-4 goals every game. At some point, they need to bolster their defense. It's a mess. Kepa's obviously a big problem, but the defending line isn't a whole lot better. Alonso is a good wingback, but he's not good in defending. The center backs aren't good at all.

    I get Havertz is an elite young talent, but unless Chelsea has creative accounting at some point they will run out of money for transfers. From a value standpoint, a defender has to be a smarter investment than Havertz (and I fully recognize what a talent Havertz is).

    As tough as it is to say, if then can sell high on N'golo Kante I think they have to make that move. I love Kante, but if you can get two very good players for his transfer value (and I recognize that may not be feasible in the current environment), I think you have to make that move.
     
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  14. GoBigBlue88

    GoBigBlue88 Member+

    Feb 11, 2009
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Co-sign all of this. They actually compound their defensive calamity by tasking Kante with running himself into the ground to cover and never being at full fitness. It's a self-collapsing cycle where no one wins. At least if they sell high on Kante and invest in backline that doesn't require the degree of cover Chelsea asks of Kante, they come out winning on one line versus losing on two.
     
  15. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Two years ago Chelsea were a phenomenal defensive side. Last year Chelsea were a very good defensive side. This year Chelsea are not. What has changed? It's not the defense - the only player gone is David Luiz. The rest of the players are still in their primes (or close to it). However, Kante is hurt, Kepa is having a horrible season and Chelsea are playing an extremely aggressive pressing system with CMs who're either positionally all over the place (Ross Barkley, Mason Mount, Billy Gilmour) are way too slow to cope with counters (hi Jorginho) or seem to lack the stamina to play 90 minutes regularly (Kovacic).

    The problem seems unlikely to be primarily with the defense (though left back is an issue). We are, however, seeing what happens to good, but not great, defenders when they're forced to play a very high line, don't have good cover and have a bad keeper behind them. Goals happen. Van Dijk and Alisson can survive those tactics (even though Klopp has dialed things back). Rudiger and Kepa cannot. (Though Rudiger is certainly a better CB than Kepa is a keeper.)

    Also, Lampard appears to be terrible at coaching set piece defense; there is no reason reason why this group of players should be this bad at it, because, again - we weren't the last two seasons, and it's the same players! Unless anyone thinks Hazard was leading our set piece defense.

    TLDR: It's not really the defense!
     
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  16. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I'm going to put a pause on our regular OT posts. I know, I know, bad form but, really, this is a historical moment.

    For the first time ever there is an American kid playing soccer that is consistently creating magic against the biggest teams. Highlight reel stuff match after match since the restart. Savor the moment. This is our first international star.
     
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  17. orcrist

    orcrist Member+

    Jun 11, 2005
    Bay Area, California, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, and to put the cherry on that, the arguments in the twitterverse and other discussion forums is not about whether he is any good, or even whether he's great; non-Americans are actually arguing about whether he's the best winger in the league right now, or just a merely great one in the top 10 or so. I mean, the level that even his critics are placing him at is rarefied air for any American soccer player.
    Puli is becoming exactly what we were hoping for.
     
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  18. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For the first time, we have an American player who is
    Hopefully, this will also open the door for other American players who want to make it to the big time and have the talent and drive. We've had a mix of players who were just below a top level (I'd say players like Dempsey at Fulham), players who might have had the talent but were more comfortable playing in the US (Donovan - I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but I do think if he really wanted to play overseas that he could have made a bigger dent), and goalkeepers.

    Pulisic is the first American player that we can point to and say with a straight face that he can be a global soccer superstar. That's a really, really big deal.
     
  19. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    You may have the greatest attack in the world, but if Messi wants to join and you can afford it, you make it happen. Havertz is no Messi, but he's been good enough in the Bundesliga that it would be dumb to pass up the opportunity to get him during a period of time when there is no competition to do so.
     
  20. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    “they don’t score they don’t win” is what counts for insightful commentary among the American football community.
     
  21. y-lee-coyote

    y-lee-coyote Member+

    Dec 4, 2012
    Club:
    --other--

    but can he do it on a rainy night in Stoke? Oh NVM they are barely still in league football.

    He has had a sub appearance and a full game since the restart that to my eyes he was clearly the best player on the pitch. In the sub appearance possibly in Klopp's eyes too.

    I do not think we have seen the best of him yet, that's the most exciting part.
     
  22. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Pulisic is The Prince That Was Promised.

    just imagine another decade of him in Europe. In 3 or 4 years, he could potentislly be ready for a Barcelona or Madrid or Juventus
     
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  23. dams

    dams Member+

    United States
    Dec 22, 2018
    If he continues to play in the Fall like he did after the restart it will be more like 3 or 4 months.
     
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  24. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    lol
     
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  25. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    Side note. I see people talking up Serie A and Juventus. I watch Juve dominate with a bunch of people in the golden years of their careers (minus Dybala, who has been MAGISTERIAL) and wonder how good a Serie A actually is right now?

    Also, why would CP want to go to these super clubs whose ownership and fans base are less stable than plutonium 244? Those places are all drama, all the time, from 7 different directions. Life is short.
     
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