Christian Pulisic at AC Milan

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  1. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT
    Wait until they sacked Fonseca and bring in a new manager.

    They will then be paying 3 managers at the same time. Insane!
     
  2. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    What are the wages he's on? Gotta be one of the highest earners at the club.
     
  3. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Serie A doesn't pay all that well compared to the prem... although I suppose that's true of basically everywhere. But he probably is up there with Leao as the top earners.

    Still I'd imagine he's on a huge paycut from his Chelsea wages.
     
  4. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
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    5-way tie for 5th-10th spots, according to my info.
     
  5. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    According to Capology:
    Puli is on €4m per year net (€5.1m gross), same tier as Theo, Origi, RLC, and Chuk. Only Leao (€5m net + €2m in bonuses) and Morata (€4.5m net + €1m in bonuses) earn more. However, Capology doesn't distinguish between performance bonuses and signing bonuses, so it's unlikely that Leao is actually earning €7m net each year.
     
  6. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    I’m pretty sure that Leao doesn’t get paid by the mile.
     
  7. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    What is Cap's "net" supposed to be net of?
     
  8. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    Per their FAQ, they consulted, "international tax professionals to determine best taxation rates across many countries" and use those estimated tax rates to calculate the net salary. Because some countries report net player salaries instead of gross player salaries, Capology defers to the country the club is located in to determine which figure is the "single source of truth". So, for Puli, the net salary of €4m is likely what's been reported to Capology, and the gross salary of €5.1m is a rough estimate they calculated.
     
  9. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
    SoCal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That gross wage is because of the growth decree as well (I know you're aware from the McKennie thread). Only way Milan were going to be able to afford him.
     
  10. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    I'm curious to know if Capology has changed the taxation calculations since the expiry of a Growth Decree, because the back of the envelope math on Puli's numbers suggests that he's only paying like 22% in taxes. It somewhat depends on what kind of business Capology sees itself as... like, who is paying a monthly fee to access an API that provides EXTREMELY rough financial information on player salaries? If they want to market themselves to clubs or agents, they need to have up-to-date tax calculations.
     
  11. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
    SoCal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm pretty sure those who had contracts with the decree in place will maintain the previously approved tax benefit. The question for me is whether or not they maintain it if they renew/extend their contracts.
     
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  12. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT
    Origi is basically getting free money at this point
     
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  13. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    If CP is working in Italy on a 5 mill salary and pays 25% tax... Could someone intro me to his accountants? Thanks in advance.
     
  14. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
    SoCal
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    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  15. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Ah - i thought it had already finished. Didn't realize it was en force till Feb. Thanks.

    Now, does CP and everyone else's tax double on 2/1/25 or is it for run of contract? (I guess it depends if you negotiated a net or a gross with your team. Wonder if anyone has "after tax" number in their contract. That would encourage some player sales.)
     
  16. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    I think the tax expired this past February (2024). My understanding (which could very well be wrong) is that any contracts that were in effect before the expiration are grandfathered in to the Growth Decree tax rates. So Puli, having signed in 2023, will have the growth decree tax rate until his contract expires in 2027 or he signs a renewal.
     
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  17. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    If it was grandfathered then transferring players inside Italy really needed a bump to make a move worthwhile. Interesting.
     
  18. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
  19. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Busy stretch ahead …

    Sat v Venezia

    Tue v Liverpool

    Sun @ Inter

    Reports suggest that (following international travel) Pulisic may rest v Venezia to remain fresh for Liverpool (and then Inter).
     
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  20. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    That would make inter-Italy transfers pretty expensive for either club or player (esp if extensions retains the previous tax rate.) You have to get a lot more gross pay moving from one Italian club to another not to take a net pay cut vs. extending. Wonder if it has/will increased the outflow of higher paid players from Serie A.
     
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  21. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
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  22. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    Another in a long-line of "guys who are very good at soccer not being good at running a sports business"
     
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  23. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    @Rossonero23 Have you been following the chatter this week about a new (shared) stadium? Anything new?
     
  24. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Ibra was an amazing, exciting, annoying, entertaining player. I cannot imagine having him run my business, except maybe if it was a restaurant or fancy hotel. He'd be a fun/annoying/entertaining/demanding host/owner, I bet.
     
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