Chris Richards at Crystal Palace

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  1. DeCoverley

    DeCoverley Member

    Aug 9, 2007
    San Francisco
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Damn. Glasner says he has two torn ligaments but has a 50/50 chance to play in the Conference League final on 5/27. Not sure how to sync those two bits of info.
     
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  2. Mt Stone@

    Mt Stone@ Member+

    Fulham
    United States
    Apr 30, 2016
    USA
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    the USMNT is cursed.
     
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  3. futbol2ot

    futbol2ot Member

    May 15, 2001
    Massachusetts
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am not a doctor, just a guy with a history of ankle injuries of various severities. I think (and hope) Glasner, with English being his second language, is using different terminology for what we would commonly call an ankle sprain. A sprain is a stretching or partial-to-complete tearing of a ligament. The key bit of good news to me is that Glasner said the ankle is stable but swollen. Stable suggests less severe. Given all the context, it sounds to me like Richards might have a Grade 1 ankle sprain, which can take up to 3 weeks to heal. If that is the case, I think he will be good to go for the World Cup, barring setbacks or reinjury. A Grade 2 or 3 sprain would put his World Cup in jeopardy. But if he's 50/50 to play next week, my gut is telling me he'll be okay for the World Cup.
     
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  4. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    make that a 5% chance...IMHO
     
  5. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    We don't know how severe but you are willing to throw percentages?. Rupture means is it is severed. Tear can be another way of saying sprain. Lets wait for more information
     
  6. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #5156 bshredder, May 21, 2026
    Last edited: May 21, 2026
    I think he'll be on the WC roster BUT bringing an injured player who is questionable to a tournament with limited roster space can affect up to 3 roster spots

    1) the injured player (Richards)
    2) The possible need to bring in another player in that position (in this case another central defender) in the event Richards has to miss a game or is too far below 100% and you don't exactly know when he'll be healthy enough
    3) The extra central defender you need to bring must see another player in a different position removed.

    Cutting an injured player is easy. Cardoso can't go, Poch brings another central midfielder - say Aidan Morris. It's not optimal and the second player is typically not as good as originally planned player, but the solution is easy.

    Bringing injured players is always a nightmare for a coach. It really complicates the dynamics.
     
  7. futbol2ot

    futbol2ot Member

    May 15, 2001
    Massachusetts
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Great points. Even if he ends up fine to play, the injury introduces variables that Poch will need to account for in his roster construction. The timing is certainly awful. I wasn't thinking about the trickle down effect on the roster.
     
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  8. madvillain2

    madvillain2 Member

    Wolves
    United States
    Jan 12, 2026
    There isn't a chance he's healthy in 4 weeks, let alone fit to play a WC match. I hate being a USMNT fan man. It's just a never ending torture.
     
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  9. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    CBS sports correspondent plays down the severity of the injury:

     
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  10. madvillain2

    madvillain2 Member

    Wolves
    United States
    Jan 12, 2026
    I really hope it's just a mild sprain (so no full tears) and he can return to training like two weeks. Euros do have a strange way of describing non surgical requiring ligamanent issues. We usually use the term "sprain" to imply a mild tear not requiring surgery, whereas they do not differentiate.
     
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  11. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Club Med
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Many people think that if there are two choices, then the odds must be 50-50. I predict that Richards does not play another club match this season, makes the final USMNT roster and plays 20-30 against Germany.
     
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  12. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Binary event probabilities are always 50-50 - either something happens or it doesn’t. Think heads or tails, win, lose or draw, etc.
     
  13. Magikfute

    Magikfute Member

    Mar 9, 2001
    Lancaster, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I imagine this is a joke or a movie reference that I am missing?
     
  14. le jessster

    le jessster Member

    Everton FC
    United States
    May 15, 2025
    We could always switch to binomial or a more general cumulative distribution function.
     
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  15. Grumpy in LA

    Grumpy in LA Bringing It Since 1807™

    Sep 10, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Either the Sun turns into a turnip tomorrow or it doesn’t. 50-50 that tomorrow the 2026 World Cup becomes irrelevant, and that the corpses of every human being who ever lived will spend the remaining life of the universe orbiting an unusually large root vegetable.

    Fingers crossed!


    Also, I’m not going to worry about the 26 until I know how this turns out.
     
  16. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Club Med
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep, and this situation cannot be modeled that way.
     
  17. RecLeague Super Sub

    Fulham
    United States
    Jun 5, 2019
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  18. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I still think that he will not play, but the fact that he is back at practice is pretty amazing.
     
  19. mace

    mace Member+

    Indy 11
    United States
    Jun 5, 2004
    USA
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If he ever really needed to be a wolverine, the time is now.
     
  20. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    named to the bench
     
  21. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    20' remaining and it's so-far so-good both in terms of Palace winning AND Richards not being subbed on.

    1-0 in the 70'
     
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  22. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    Mission accomplished! Silverware for Richards without risking re-injury!

    Bravo Palace!

    edit: Chris is sprinting in a subs penny and jumping on his teammates in celebration. Doesn't look like he's struggling to move. A joy to see, but at the same time, chill out and get home safely lol
     
  23. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    and Europa League next year!!!
     
  24. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    You're ignoring the quantum possibilities in which the ligaments are both torn and not torn until observed. I adopted a alive/dead cat like that once.

    Many congratulations to Palace and Chris! Only one more minor trophy to play for this summer for Richards!
     
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