Chivas

Discussion in 'MLS: General' started by tytomkiel, Jul 6, 2005.

  1. tytomkiel

    tytomkiel Red Card

    Feb 12, 2002
    San Diego, Ca
    Who still thinks Chivas is a good idea now?
     
  2. Calexico77

    Calexico77 Member

    Sep 19, 2003
    Mid-City LA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [raises hand]

    It's the only "away game" the Galaxy can win.
     
  3. kpaulson

    kpaulson New Member

    Jun 16, 2000
    Washington DC
    I do.

    They've certainly been neither the competitive threat to other MLS teams nor the fans-in-the-stands success that some (including myself) projected. But things like the sponsorships and the Chivacademy are accomplishments that the BS community would laud any MLS team for.

    If, after a few years, it still doesn't work, I'd still hold my hand up. There is a difference, after all, between a bad decision and a wrong one.
     
  4. Aljarov

    Aljarov Member

    Sep 14, 2004
    fmnorthamerica.com
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Their off-field achievements are a credit to themselves and MLS. It's only a matter of time before the on-field production starts..... (And Garcia and Palencia et al should hasten that I would imagine)
     
  5. Ringo

    Ringo Member

    Jun 10, 2002
    Rough and Ready
    Club:
    Yeovil Town FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i do.

    you can't judge things this soon. give 'em time.


    but that doesn't mean I want Club America joining the league anytime soon. One Mexican team is plenty.
     
  6. anderson

    anderson Member+

    Feb 28, 2002
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Apparently, these guys:

    Chivas USA sets all-time standard in MLS team sponsorship
     
  7. MightyMouse

    MightyMouse BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 19, 2003
    Island paradise east of the mainland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anderson, you know how to smackdown the competition... nice post!
     
  8. aosthed

    aosthed Member

    Jul 16, 2004
    40º30' N 111º52' W
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    Sweden
    $25 million good ideas... Mwuhahahahahaaaaaaaaaa - ack - sputter - cough.

    What do we really lose at the end of this either way:

    1) it fails - a crap load o' dough for MLS / LAG with no real risk on their part.
    2) it succeeds - a crap load o' dough for MLS / LAG with no real risk on their part AND a successful team that has created a true derby, some rivalry, and done their part to pave the way for future investment...

    Where's the downside? I don't think it could have gone better - Vergara has gotten an extra helping of humble pie (see "We're going to teach the gringos..." blah blah blah) AND it looks like he's still committed to making CDCUSA a winning team.

    It obviously hasn't hurt the LAG fanbase as some predicted - so new fans, for a new team, paying money to play at the home of another team. God Bless America! :D
     
  9. tytomkiel

    tytomkiel Red Card

    Feb 12, 2002
    San Diego, Ca

    Yes no club america, please, and how much do you guys want to bet if Chivas doesnt start to produce they will be out of the league in 3 years minimum?
     
  10. Calexico77

    Calexico77 Member

    Sep 19, 2003
    Mid-City LA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A lot. Vergara is already pulling out the stops to bring in fresh talent. Palencia and Garcia should jumpstart the offense, and take a little bit of pressure off of the back line.

    Vergara also put 25 million just to say he had a team, that's not including all start up costs. You think he's just gonna "give up"? MLS wants him here, he wants to prove his point. Chivas make suck on the field, but then, so does columbus. And Chivas has better attendance, I believe, at this point.

    Make all the snarky comments you want, but you better get a new crystal ball.
     
  11. kpaulson

    kpaulson New Member

    Jun 16, 2000
    Washington DC
    let's change that bet. How much do you want to bet on Chivas not getting better in the next three years?

    I mean, yeah, if Chivas is this bad for the next two years, they might want to think about getting out of the league, but be reasonable. Even the Metros couldn't stay this bad for three years in a row, so you'd be betting on absolute fantasy.
     
  12. TheKing G

    TheKing G New Member

    Aug 19, 2004
    california
    It seems to me chivas needs to reach out to other soccer fans in LA not just the mexicans , they need to be a team for the city of LA not a team for people of a certain ethnic background
     
  13. Tyler66

    Tyler66 New Member

    Apr 22, 2004
    Massachusetts
    True, but still a Latin-oriented one.
     
  14. Nodak

    Nodak New Member

    Feb 28, 2005
    I appreciate that they don't try to play like everyone else but at the same time if they don't get better it will do no favors to the development of the league or futbol in this country.

    I also enjoy disliking them for all the ignoramice shite that seems to fall out of the mouth of the owner (good humor I tell ya). Hopefully the Garcia experiment works otherwise I see these guys sucking for years. Good Mexicans won't want to play for them and they won't have automatic ownership of every other good Mexican American (limited talent pool).

    Hope they don't sink this ship.
     
  15. Elisa Uranga

    Elisa Uranga New Member

    Jun 14, 2005
    Sierra Madre, CA
    Chivas is a good thing. Unfortunately they underestimated the league. They need to bring some quality players and play real ball.

    I am actually looking forward to more Mexican teams coming into MLS - Club America, etc. We need more rivalries, passion, diversity, but with quality. :)
     
  16. kpaulson

    kpaulson New Member

    Jun 16, 2000
    Washington DC
    Because it's so hard to build or re-build a team in MLS? :confused:
    Signed, FC Dallas
     
  17. voros

    voros Member

    Jun 7, 2002
    Parts Unknown
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is wrong. It's a crapload of dough for AEG, not MLS or the Galaxy.
     
  18. Exeter City

    Exeter City New Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    NH coast/Beverly MA
    Great idea, it gives the other teams time to relax and get an easy win
     

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