chivas vs LAG(MLS Super Classico)

Discussion in 'MLS: General' started by HONDUGOL, Nov 27, 2004.

  1. HONDUGOL

    HONDUGOL New Member

    Sep 11, 2004
    This is turnning to be a great rivalry already, something that the MLS was lacking.
    I know many of u don't agree with having USA Chivas but I think it will turn out to be a very smart move by Mls.
    This rivalry will bring passionate and excited fans and i'm sure sometimes will get out of hand but it will only benefit MLS and Usa soccer.
    Mls will finally have a Boca vs Rplate or Barcelona vs Real, Rangers vs Celtic..
    type of games.
     
  2. aosthed

    aosthed Member

    Jul 16, 2004
    40º30' N 111º52' W
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    Sweden
    I too enjoy the rivalry... I think it may extent to Chivas vs. all other MLS teams, because you're going to have a lot of gringos who want to show Chivas they know how to play. I think it is great...

    But before we dub it a "Rangers vs. Celtic" or "Barca vs. Real" or "Arsenal vs. ManU"... LA and Chivas actually need to sit at the top of the league for a few years... those rivalries are about the Top 2 teams in the league.

    For all we know Chivas might suck and LA may continue as a perennial underachiever... their rivalry may be more along the lines of a Derby NOT a "1" vs. "2" - that is something that must be earned. :D
     
  3. Lithium858

    Lithium858 Member

    Aug 11, 2002
    Baton Rouge
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    After their first season it's probably end up being like the Lakers and Clippers playing where no one cares anymore.
     
  4. astabooty

    astabooty Member

    Nov 16, 2002
    China
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    i disagree, outside of the US most rivalries come to be due to location, not position on the table. rangers/celtic (glascow), river/boca (buenos aires), arsenal/tottenham (london), man u/man city (manchester), etc. obviously they are better if the game is for more than pride and the teams are close in quality, but that is not how true ones are created because teams will not always be good.
     
  5. USvsIRELAND

    USvsIRELAND Member+

    Jul 19, 2004
    ATL

    I disagree, with players such as Broome who dont back off from a fight + hispanic fiery temper it could be a good one.
     
  6. Lithium858

    Lithium858 Member

    Aug 11, 2002
    Baton Rouge
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hopefully that will be the case.
     
  7. aosthed

    aosthed Member

    Jul 16, 2004
    40º30' N 111º52' W
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    Sweden
    Reread the post. I never said there aren't geographic rivalries.

    He just referenced some that are based on league contention - Real & Barca aren't geographic rivals. Sure, he references Boca & Riverplate... Rangers & Celtic... but they are much more so the rivals because they are contending for 1 & 2 each season...

    Your statement and my statement aren't mutually exclusive.
     
  8. go_otrova

    go_otrova New Member

    Jan 3, 2004
    Palatine
    Meanwhile Players are not loyal to the Jersey there can't be no clasic or rivalry. These players belong to the league not to the team. To build a clasico you need a little hatred. These guys get their check under the same payroll.
     
  9. Brownswan

    Brownswan New Member

    Jun 30, 1999
    Port St. Lucie, FL
    Add to this rivalry one stadium each calls home, and you have a sports equivallent of Northern Ireland, Kashmir and Israel-Palestine -- but let's hope it's more like the Jets-Sharks thing (with a ChivaChick as Maria).
     
  10. astabooty

    astabooty Member

    Nov 16, 2002
    China
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    very good point. that should change eventually though.
     
  11. dice50

    dice50 New Member

    Oct 4, 2000
    Norman, Oklahoma
    It wont be like the Lakers/Clippers b/c race is already an issue, which blows it up 10 fold.
     
  12. churchill2000

    churchill2000 3x MLS Cup Champions

    Jul 12, 2004
    Monde Virtuel
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy

    Chivas v. Galaxy will never be the MLS Classic Match, it is always going to be LA and DC United, that has more history in it.

    It isn't a classic if they play in the same stadium, look at AC and Inter Milan, that's not much of a great match, yes it can be hyped better but that doesn't make it a great match.

    AC Milan v. Juventus that's a classic.
     
  13. Juan Luis Guerra

    Juan Luis Guerra Red Card

    Jun 11, 2001
    New York City
    Can Various Styles call this a real classic "Un Clasico"?.
     
  14. Lithium858

    Lithium858 Member

    Aug 11, 2002
    Baton Rouge
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for re-enforcing my point :D
     
  15. Pangloss

    Pangloss New Member

    Nov 3, 2004
    NYC
    Roma - Lazio anyone?
     
  16. flash1316

    flash1316 Member

    Nov 27, 2003
    Raleigh, NC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You need to research the Real Madrid - Barcelona rivalry, Barca and Madrid might not be in the same city, but it is a more intense geographic rivalry than Atletico vs. Madrid, the two cities despise each other historically it is a rivalry equally as much if not more about politics and the geographical rivalry between these two citites than it is about the soccer game. I understand the point you were trying to make and I know this has nothing to do with the topic of the board, but the Madrid - Barca rivalry is the super classico it is because of all the external factors that make the game so much more important than a competition between the traditional #'s 1 and 2 in the league
     
  17. flash1316

    flash1316 Member

    Nov 27, 2003
    Raleigh, NC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it's good that the rivalry that hasn't started yet was born out of tension and controversy with the myraid of different opinions on the race issue and on the two teams sharing a stadium. I also agree that when the league isn't a single entity and teams can truly control their future will the rivalry really erupt. My only knock on Chivas is that the team should be called Chivas Los Angeles instead of the obvious cheesy marketing tool that is Chivas USA
     
  18. Beakmon FC

    Beakmon FC Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Jan 10, 2002
    The OC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Um yeah I guess...San Jose-LA has far more 'oomph' than the LA-DC matchup ever did.
     
  19. SoundgardenSoccerbal

    May 24, 2004
    Los Angles
    you took the words right out of me mouth :)
     
  20. Femfa

    Femfa New Member

    Jun 3, 2002
    Los Angeles
    Only lately. The DC vs LA rivalry goes back to the first MLS Cup. For only four years (the Donovan era) has San Jose been good enough for the match-up to have "oomph".

    Now that he's gone - erm, I see it fading.

    Just in time, though, DC is resurgent!
     
  21. 562nation

    562nation Member

    May 10, 2004
    (562)areacode LA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    on top of that if LA would have won at least two more championships when they had a chance it would probably be more of a rivalry. like taking advantage of homefield for MLS finals imagine if we had gone to all the finals here in LA and won them. add that with the win in foxboro we would have had four stars. The galaxy reminds me of my ex- girlfriend things are awesome for 6 months then come the fall boom they're out.
     
  22. cosmojado

    cosmojado Member

    Oct 18, 2002
    in sin

    I hope the two teams do a choreographed dance/fight routine at halftime.
     
  23. Bill Schmidt

    Bill Schmidt BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 3, 2003
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Keep in mind that some of the heat from these rivalries is because the sport is such a huge deal that team vs. team really does become city vs. city, class vs. class, ethnicity vs. ethnicity, or religion vs. religion. The idea that each team has a typical fan with a certain affiliation to one of those demographics is pretty foreign in the U.S. The teams have to run deep with their ties to that fan base. We have seen some of that with the geographic/world view differences between San Jose and L.A., and we could see a higher level rivalry, founded on other differences, betwen the Galaxy and Chivas.
     

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