Chivas USA in Chicago and MLS teams moving?

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by dncm, May 4, 2004.

  1. dncm

    dncm Member+

    Apr 22, 2003
    Boston
    Crossposted from Revs board, and I see discussion on Chicago board and Chivas expansion board. Posting here since the mention of current MLS teams moving. Mods - feel free to merge if needed.

    Again, take it for what it is worth....but this should get some interesting reactions:

    "MLS is still unable to answer specific questions that surround the league at this time, such as expansion and relocation - the latter becoming a large issue with the potential move for one of the current teams to another city. San Jose, New England and Kansas City have all been linked with possible relocations over the last 12 months."

    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headli...=299372&cc=5901
     
  2. Greddy

    Greddy Member

    Jun 24, 2003
    Chicago
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "News" story

    This article was taken from UssoccerUK. The Chivas USA in Chicago part is based on the thread already here on Bigsoccer. As the previous poster said, take it for what it is worth.
     
  3. dabes2

    dabes2 Member

    Jun 1, 2003
    Chicago
    Re: "News" story

    The rumor certainly percolated here, but Chris Bergin was the one who called up Peter Wilt and got him to speak about it.
     
  4. Wallydrag

    Wallydrag BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 24, 2002
    Oklahoma City
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is the first I've heard of New England as a possible relocation canidate. Is there any sign Kraft wants out because if so, then it's counter productive just trading in one I/O for another. MLS wouldn't be gaining any which is what they need.

    Also, when I clicked on the link, it said page not found. Did you enter it wrong?
     
  5. pc4th

    pc4th New Member

    Jun 14, 2003
    North Poll
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    it's the VERY same article from Chris Bergin at ussocceruk.com

    you can find it there.

    There is no talk of MLS teams moving (Kansas and NE). SJ might be a different story unless Club America buys the team OR the attendance/stadium situation improve.
     
  6. wellington

    wellington Member

    Jun 4, 1999
    Charlotte, NC
    Club:
    Charlotte
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    San Jose is heading to Seattle in 2005.
     
  7. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't ever remember hearing KC or NE as candidates. Anyone else?
     
  8. The Magpie

    The Magpie Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Cambridge, MA
    There were some rumors a few years back that the Krafts may have been re-evaluating their investment in MLS, but I've not heard anything recently to suggest as such, even though the Revolution continue to work at cutting operating costs. I think they appreciate that the risks associated with running a MLS franchise are less than if they withdraw from the league entirely, and potential isolate themselves from future international friendlies, U.S. National Team matches, etc.

    The Magpie
     
  9. hartley

    hartley Member

    There was a very inaccurate article written that surmised that Mr. Hunt might move his team to Rochester. The assumption was connected to a visit Mr. Hunt's paid to the area and his comments that Rochester was a great soccer town.

    There are no facts supporting the story. And no quotes from Mr. Hunt or anyone else in the Wizards organization.

    It would be very unlikely that Mr. Hunt would move his KC team since he owns the football team here also. And he gets the use of Arrowhead for the Wizards for about $1 a year. He has a long and good history with KC and has never indicated any interest in moving his teams from the area.
     
  10. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    And the fact that Hunt's trip to Rochester was explicitly to help MLS evaluate Rochester as an expansion market, including evaluation of Rochester's current ownership as potential MLS owners. The trip was not to see if he could try to move one of his teams to Rochester and squash the Rhinos.
     
  11. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    I would bet Lamar builds a SSS in the KC area before he moves the Wizards.

    NE I could see being moved, not because it's not a great soccer market - it is - but because the Krafts commitment to soccer is a little shaky.

    San Jose - we'll let that one play out without comment from me.

    As to the Chivas/Chicago thing, Wilt's quotes were interesting in that he said he was for it. I see that as early spin. In otherwords, he sees it's going to happen and he wants to paint a picture in public of this being good for the Fire and good for soccer. I think his comments are rather telling.
     
  12. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've heard of the Krafts being rumored as wanting out. Whether that necessarily means moving the Revs, I don't know. I would think KC would be highly unlikely, but, then, I thought Anschutz would never sell the Rapids.
     
  13. Blong

    Blong Member+

    Oct 29, 2002
    Midwest, the real one.

    I had the same feeling about this. Either he's being really, really candid, or this is him being a good politician. Let's face it: If Chivas are really looking to play in the Bridgeview stadium, Peter Wilt is highly involved in the discussions. He either knows that they will play there, or knows that they won't. Unless Vergara himself doesn't yet know. :)
     
  14. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    There was a recent article in the Rochester paper that put 1 and 1 together and got five. The writer's premise was that Lamar Hunt once visited Rochester and said nice things about it, and that the "journalist" also believed the Wizards attendance was crap and that since Hunt had built a stadium for the Crew, and was building one for the Burn, that the only logical conclusion was that Hunt was going to move the Wizards to Rochester.

    :rolleyes:
     
  15. Wallydrag

    Wallydrag BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 24, 2002
    Oklahoma City
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not only am I against Chivas USA moving to Chicago, I'm even more against them sharing a stadium with the Fire. That's just crap. I know the Jets and Giants share a stadium (though the Jets are tryign to build their own). And I'm pretty sure the Lakers and Clippers share the Staples Center.

    But still. the Cubs and White Sox don't share. Yankees and Mets.

    I just don't like it one bit. Besides. If Chivas USA is supposed to draw the entire hispanic population of Chicago, won't Bridgeview be too small? I'd think they'd need a place as big as Soldier Field. CUSA were going to play in Qualcomm in San Diego and they said they'd fill it.
     
  16. clashcityrocker

    Mar 12, 1999
    In the shadow of RFK
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I say we just let Chivas play all away games - or, give them like eight home fields: Chivas Chicago/Los Angeles/San Diego/Houston/San Antonio/Miami/Little Rock/Phoenix/Las Vegas/Fresno/Walla Walla.
     
  17. wellington

    wellington Member

    Jun 4, 1999
    Charlotte, NC
    Club:
    Charlotte
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    The sopa opera continues...
     
  18. Dave Brull

    Dave Brull Member

    Mar 9, 2001
    Mayfield Hts, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mmmmm. Soup operas.

    Caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaampbells. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
     
  19. wellington

    wellington Member

    Jun 4, 1999
    Charlotte, NC
    Club:
    Charlotte
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Its pretty clear that Chivas will field a team in Chicago, AEG will move the eQuakes to Seattle, and Club America will set up operations in San Jose.
     
  20. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Whew. That's a relief. I can stop paying attention now and just fast forward to later in the year when they announce all that.
     
  21. wellington

    wellington Member

    Jun 4, 1999
    Charlotte, NC
    Club:
    Charlotte
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I'm just happy to help out. You can now focus on your stats battle with NY_Cosmos.
     
  22. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, that one's over.
     
  23. wellington

    wellington Member

    Jun 4, 1999
    Charlotte, NC
    Club:
    Charlotte
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Good. :)

    Most of my mis-informed assesment was based on the fact that Chivas Chicago has a nice ring to it. Very scientific. This Chivas stuff is really dragging on and on.
     
  24. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    They would seem highly unlikely since their respective I/Os control the revenue streams at their stadiums.
     
  25. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    That was over before it started. Usually, a "battle" signifies that both sides are fighting.
     

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