According to socceramerica galaxy is trying to aquire Chivas. http://www.socceramerica.com/article.asp?Art_ID=562132854
They aint trading Memo. I think LA's liked Chivas ever since the Burn drafted him. He was one of those LA-area guys Sigi really likes and has a knack of taking in later rounds. But Dir beat him to the punch. It's probably true that LA has always inquired about him.
Chivas' trade value isn't as high as perceived since his contract runs out at the close of this MLS season. With MLS gaining more respect internationally because of the World Cup, I'd expect a Mexican team to sign him.
3rd degree...you said that you would trade Chivas for Memo. Are you crazy? Memo is 17 and probably won't make an impact on the league for another 3 years. So you would trade the best leftmid in the league for nothing? We probably won't have a team in 3 years if we don't start winning cups now. Davis is not the man Chivas is. We already know what we can get from Chivas. All that wait for him to break through now that he did, we are going to get rid of him? Man, tough crowd!
3rd degree, I just visited your website and saw that you have Martinez or Davis as your leftmid in starting 11. Why is that? Is it because Martinez might not be here or is it because you think that Davis will beat Martinez for the spot? Or are they going to share time? Personally I don't think either of them would be happy with this last one.
I would hope that neither is happy without starting. But this is SPORTS and it's all about COMPETITION. Having more competition for starting spots on the roster will make the Burn a better team, and I am all for that. Big Jake, it sounds like you have more personal opinions about the left mid situation than just because you are a Burn fan. And Chivas the best left mid in the league? I guess DeMarcus Beasley doesn't count? Mark Chung? Chivas is good, but let's not get overly unrealistic about how good he is, he's had one decent season. I hope he stays and I hope he has another good one, and he's one of my favorite players on the team. But in the interest of the team getting better, I don't mind competition for minutes, and I would understand if he got traded if we got something good in return.
1. Chivas is out of contract at the end of the year. He wants to play in Mexico. He might be willing to stay for a big time raise, which the Burn can't give him for cap reasons. If you need more validation see Pudge Rodriguez. 2. Memo is a big time player at the age of 17. You are right it will take 3 years for him to pay off. But his updise is much greater than Chivas. 3. Davis is a much better TWO WAY player then Chivas. Chivas is a wonderfully gifted player on the dribble. He can beat anyone in MLS one on one. But Davis is already a better defender, passer, and crosser. I am not calling for Chivas to be traded. I like Chivas. I want him to stay here. But I am aware it is likely this will be his last season playing for the Burn. If, and only if, LA would give up Memo (Which they won't) would i send them Chivas. Anyone else I want to keep Chivas and pray Burn can re-sign him for close to what he gets now (Which is doubtful).
Folks, let's not get carried away. Chivas is not going anywhere this season. The article simply stated that LA inquired about him. Is our team in the habit of stupidly trading away our best players to the first person that comes asking? No. Metro wanted Vaca for an allocation for crying out loud and we still didn't bite. We don't make stupid trades just for the sake of trading. So let's all settle down.
On my Starting 11 page I have put in players I feel are in legit competition to start. After talking to Swift and Jeffries the positions with multiple players listed are one with real competition. In this specific case, the Burn did not trade the #4 pick for Davis to sit the bench. I think there will be different games when you see them start. You may even see both start the same game as Davis can play other position as well. Bottom line they will be in direct competition for that left spot. Chivas is by no means a guaranteed starter like Oscar Pareja. FYI the starting 11 page is changed frequently. It will certainly change several times between now and opening day. The multiple positions I think fairly reflect the current state of things. Believe me I think Chivas is a great player, but so is Davis. The better a team is the more depth there is.. The more competition there is.
I'd say we can't afford NOT to give him a raise if he has another season like last year. We should be thinking about moving older cap-unfriendly players like Deering so we can provide raises for up and coming young stars like Chivas. If he continues to play at last season's level, you're damned right he's going to want and big raise, and he'll deserve it. We'd be stupid not to give it to him.
The main concern I have with the Starting 11 is up top. It looks like the Burn plan to follow their time-tested, but failed, strategy of giving Kreis max PT in April, May, and June, only to see him falter under the weight of nagging injuries and fatigue by the time the playoffs come around. I'd love to see the Burn rest Kreis more in the first half of the season and pace themselves so that they're playing at their peak in October and November when it counts most.
Chivas had better stats than Beasley and Chung played in the middle all year. And don't even say that Beasley missed part of the season because of the World Cup because they ended up playing the same amount of minutes anyways. Competition for minutes. Chivas already has competition pushing him...there were so many players who started at his position last season that weren't even left midfielders. When does Chivas just get recognized as a guaranteed starter? How many times does he have to prove himself?
1. They don't have cap room? Andy Swift was quoted as saying he had the cap room to sign Stewart...he said all he needed was the allocation. I don't think Chivas would be asking for more than Stewart was asking for. 2. Who cares about that. Jeffries won't even be here in 3 years. 3. Better passer? Better crosser? Are you kidding me? Davis 3 assists - Chivas led the team with 10. Better defender? That is not what the Metostars fans say about him. A lot of them are happy that Davis is gone. They said that he is only good in the attacking third. If I was LA I would make that trade in a second for Chivas. That would only make LA stronger now...not 3 years from now.
Thats exactly my point, the main concern SHOULD be up to not left mid, rightmid etc... Davis is not the guy we needed. There is nothing wrong with the leftmid we already have. Why not get an experienced forward and draft a rookie leftmid. Arturo Alvarez? Why was it the other way around. You have got to agree with me on this one.
Man, you don't know what you're talking about. Chivas had a contract already, hence no need to renegotiate since he has this season left on it. MLS doesn't sign players to one year deals.
What experienced forward would you be talking about? Which one was available other than Stewart? Stewart picked wherever he wanted to go, and the Burn had little to do with this. There aren't any experienced forwards available unless you look trade for one......who was offering?
Chivas asked for a new contract...it was on MLS Confidential. The Burn said no. You don't know anything, do you? Players renegotiate contracts if they are on option years. This is Chivas last season for his contract but he is on an option year so he can try and renegotiate more years. Please study up on this before you go and tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about. I have been a fan since the league started.
Chacon and Serna were avaible. Heck...even Graziani if you think about it. San Jose wasn't going to ask anything for him. All for which we have cap room for. To quote goburn "but we got Davis"
Sure, and you assume that MLS wants to renegotiate with guys who have 1 great season. More likely they'll wait to see what kind of year he has this year. It's moot anyways, Mexican teams can offer him 300K to go and sit on the bench. That is, if they think he's good enough since he plays in the lowly MLS(sarcasm).
They renegotiated with Kreis(1999). But maybe you are right on that one. We saw how Kreis has done after that.