Chirac to Eastern Europe: Shut Up or Drop Dead

Chirac just figured hey, if Bush can display complete arrogance and utter disdain for the UN and world opinion with his "Yer either with us or agin us and we're goin' in without ya!" blather, why can't the French give this whole Rude, Snotty American thing a try?

Still, Chirac is a long way from loosening Dumbya's iron grip on the 2003 Anti-Dale Carnegie Award for "Best Demonstration In How To Turn Overwhelming International Solidarity and Goodwill Into Mutual Suspicion and Alienation In Six Months". Bush is in first, second and third places for that one.

 

To think this is surprising shows you don't know what the war is about. This war is going to shape the world to come, and a big part of that world is whether the euro or the dollar is top dog. You can hardly expect Chirac to support nations that want to undermine his side at this moment.

 

Chirac gets grumpy when he doesn't get his nap.

 

Funny comming froma country which sat back while Poland burned.

 

No, no, you got it all wrong... It DIDN'T come from the US.

 

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If you're going to slam please get the grammar correct--It DIDN'T come from the US. Why don't you wake up and smell the coffee. We weren't Europe's goddman watchdog until after they proved they couldn't handle their own business by letting Hitler run wild.....

Now, we're trying to prevent a middle Eastern Hitler from doing the same.....but I guess that flies right over your head.

Snuff out the fire before it gets too big.

 

This is when England and France declared
war on Germany.
http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/Dip/

Do you have a list of countries that did anything
more? or anything at all, for that matter?

 

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Hi fish. Aside from the nonsense you responded to above, what are your, and if you think you can answer, your countrys thoughts on Chiracs stance?

 

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yea, and then the next spring France falls. Bravo France, way to go. Oh, and if you think that France/UK gave direct assistance to Poland, youre delusional. Just because war was declared, doesnt mean Poland was spared.

 

Obviously you weren't aware of the Saar Offensive at the begining of the war.

http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1939/sep39/07sep39.htm

 

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You're delusional if you think you could teach
me anything about my own country's history.

Which part of what I wrote did you not
understand?
Do you need a Frenchman to help you with your
reading comprehension troubles?

 

Fish, answer my question, dammit!























please.

 

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"Ahh, the wistful days of Nazi occupation."~ world "power" France

 

This whole "utter disdain for world opinion" crap is played out. Last I checked the "scoreboard" for Euros. was 3 to 18. That doesn't exactly equate to disdain for theUN and world opinion. All that is is some "fuzzy math."

 

> Tell me what this war (if it comes) is all about.
> I'd be interested to know if you can tap into your
> vast knowledge of world affairs.

Before the first Gulf War, many European nations planned for Iraq to be their source of energy for the future. The Iran-Iraq war caused a decade of neglect to the Iraqi oil infrastructure. The amount of oil Iraq could export from discovered fields was limited by bad equipment, and new fields were not being discovered. Iraq was one of the last places on earth that still might have oil to discover that was open to the Europeans.

After Gulf War I, we stagnated Iraqi oil production. This was bad for France and catastrophic for Eastern Europe. It was just fine for England, who was in the pocket of the Kuwaitis and for the US, who was able to put Iraq on the back burner to be delt with later.

Now it is later. The war and the related political fallout is going to determine the shape of the world. If everything goes America's way, we will be continue being the superpower for another decade at least. Europe will go into the toilet. If not, you will see a stable west Europe, a powerful Turkey and India, and a US that is reduced to a European standard of living.

 

I fail to see how we wont be a superpower if "things dont go our way"

 

I'd be interested in hearing your "best case" and "worst case" scenarios for the war, and then give an honest opinion on how it'll turn out. I see very little odds of this episode approaching a worst case scenario.

 

didn't you know this whole war was instigated by TBS in an effort to increase ratings?

it would have been bigger than Joe Millionare. way to ruin it Ian.

 

> I fail to see how we wont be a superpower
> if "things dont go our way"

Because this is not oil that is "nice to have". In a few years this is going to be oil neccessary for continued economic greatness. And if we succeed in making short work of Iraq, we will also intimidate the other nations in the region to bend to our will. The dollar will continue to be the only money oil is traded in, and thus allow us to continue the trade imbalance that allows our standard of living to be so high and our financial system to be solvent.

 

he's only joshin'

 

Q: How many Frenchman does it take to defend Paris?

A: Don't know. It hasn't been tried before.