China wins World War III?

GringoTex · Sep 19, 2003

Originally posted by monop_poly

Point 2 - isn't the Netherlands part of NATO? You'll be at war with China too.
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The Netherlands will wait for Anne Frank to pick a side first.

Belgian guy · Sep 19, 2003

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Originally posted by argentine soccer fan
I wouldn't know. But I do, and I tend to be conservative, although I am registered as an independent.
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Thank god. I don't trust anybody who doesn't get drunk and laid on a regular bases.

Belgian guy · Sep 19, 2003

Originally posted by monop_poly
AFCA waxing vicariously. You'd like them to tell us to phck ourselves because Europe, including your pissant little country (which I love because my ancestors were Dutch), won't.

Point 2 - isn't the Netherlands part of NATO? You'll be at war with China too.
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Hey, don't make fun of Holland. At least they know have to have a good time.

dfb547490 · Sep 19, 2003

Originally posted by AFCA
The economies of these nations will grow. That will mean better weaponing. There is strength in numbers in the end...
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But not grow to the level of the US.

Why would India and Russia be the US's biggest allies? You're Pakistan's ally atm and I don't see any reaso for the Indians to look for a friend in the US.
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All 3 of those nations (US, India, Russia) face the same primary threat (Islamic fundamentalism) and the same secondary threat (China). The US is allied with Gen. Musharraf's government and helps prop him up, but this is actually favorable to India because if Musharraf is overthrown he will likely be replaced by an Islamic fundamentalist who wouldn't be beyond nuking Bombay. The Indians talk tough against Musharraf because they pretty much have to, but they know that his being deposed would be the worst thing that could happen to them.

I'd sooner think China, India and Russia become friends and form some sort of front against US/UK/etc.
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The Indians and Russians trust the Chinese about as much as I do. They may make diplomatic overtures towards the Chinese, but they won't ever ally themselves with them (even when they had ideologically similar governments they weren't able to band together for more than a decade or so). China still claims parts of India and, I believe, Russia as its own. The Russians sell them weapons because they are cash-starved and don't really have a choice, but Russia's future--especially under Putin--lies with the West.

I didn't say they will take a swing. But they won't put up with US BS because they won't have to.
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It'll be in their interests to ally with the US.

Ludahai · Sep 21, 2003

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Originally posted by GringoTex
Pro-China boards embrace the idea that their country is monstrous enough to kill a hundred million civilians?

Damn, I'd hate to see the anti-China boards.
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Oh, this is mild compared to some of the stuff I see on those boards. You should see what they say about the United States and Taiwan!

Attacking Minded · Sep 22, 2003

Originally posted by Richth76
In WWII one of the reasons the Germans tried to conquer Europe was becuase following WWI they were cut out of foreign trade. They lost their colonies, no one wanted to trade with them etc.

To quickly get to my point, if China attacks, and especially nukes the US, who the *#*#*#*# is going to buy the tvs, computers, and in the future cars that will be produced there? Come on, it's like a crack dealer going on a shooting spree in a crack house.
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Here's a quick question, Who was Germany's largest trading partner before attacking France? No that's too obvious. How about this one, Who was Germany's largest trading partner before they attacked Russia? Hmmm. No that's an easy one too.

Scotty · Sep 22, 2003

Originally posted by mannyfreshstunna
Why on Earth would China attack us? They need us to buy they their stuff.
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True. And we need them to make our stuff.

CrewDust · Sep 22, 2003

Originally posted by Scotty
True. And we need them to make our stuff.
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And people say globlisation is a bad thing. Hey, if it prevent massive wars it's a good thing.

AFCA · Sep 23, 2003

Originally posted by dfb547490
But not grow to the level of the US.

All 3 of those nations (US, India, Russia) face the same primary threat (Islamic fundamentalism) and the same secondary threat (China). The US is allied with Gen. Musharraf's government and helps prop him up, but this is actually favorable to India because if Musharraf is overthrown he will likely be replaced by an Islamic fundamentalist who wouldn't be beyond nuking Bombay. The Indians talk tough against Musharraf because they pretty much have to, but they know that his being deposed would be the worst thing that could happen to them.

The Indians and Russians trust the Chinese about as much as I do. They may make diplomatic overtures towards the Chinese, but they won't ever ally themselves with them (even when they had ideologically similar governments they weren't able to band together for more than a decade or so). China still claims parts of India and, I believe, Russia as its own. The Russians sell them weapons because they are cash-starved and don't really have a choice, but Russia's future--especially under Putin--lies with the West.

It'll be in their interests to ally with the US.
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Might be so, but if Mr Bush gets to piss off the rest of the world for another 4 years I'm pretty sure that best interests won't always be a priority. If 'best interest' would be the most logical priority all the time this world would be very different. Besides that, best interests are relative.

But the future will tell. Anything can happen.