Some details of Fire-Morelia deal (Radio Unica) Some “details” of Fire-Morelia agreement Exclusive from Radio Unica… Who would have thought it ? The team whose Front Office makes most sense (the Fire) has a partner that also does. Mr. Salinas from Club Morelia of Mexico went into the details of the partnership plan to be made with Chicago….The main points are the following: -First he denied categorically that they would be willing to start a new MLS team …”we do not think it would go with the essence of what MLS is trying to be” Wow, someone who actually makes sense of things! Sounds already more knowledgeable than our Chivas/America friends... -Instead, they are “joining” Chicago” How? By providing the Chicago Fire with a player from Morelia’s first team (either Mexican or foreigner).....He mentioned it would not be someone just for the sake of the name, but someone who would fit into the Fire team, according to what Sarachan feels he needs the most….He did not rule out it could be one of their well known players, as long as the Fire thought it is someone who could fit in….Can't be more acommodating than that -Another amazing move they are planning is to establish an A-League team by 2005, most likely in the Chicago area, so that they can start partnering with Chicago in a more day to day basis….His vision is to have increasingly more exchanges of players as time goes by -Also, members of the Chicago first team, just like this season, will train with Morelia’s first team for a couple of weeks…There is always the chance that one of these players joins up with the MFL club..In this case, it would also be either an American or foreign player…. I think this sounds like a really great deal, then again I'm not a Fire fan, so i'd like to know your opinions
I was going to post all that but you beat me to it! and he did say that the Morelia player to play in the Fire will be Mexican not foreigner.
Sorry!..But no, i believe he said IF (meaning if Sarachan preferred it so) the player to join the Fire was Mexican, he probably would be one of the many locals they have (from Michuacan-sp?), since this is is precisely also a community that has a great population in the Chicago area
Either way, a Mexican or someone else not from the US (or without a greencard) would count as a Senior International. They would have to be U-23 for us to take them with the current roster. 3 S.I. Andy Williams Damani Ralph Dipsy Selowane
Some details of Fire-Morelia deal (Radio Unica) I'm assuming if this does happen, then the A-League team could probably use the SSS that is likely to built.
I haven't heard any details other than those provided in the post. Having said that, all of this looks quite interesting and promising on its face. Although, I don't quite know who we would let go in order to fit a full international. He had better be freaking good. The A-League team is a very interesting idea. Less financial risk to put forth while establishing a brand presence in the market.
Plus we could work out a deal like MLB has with their farm teams, effectively giving us a reserve team, no?
I don't think A-League is really structed to operate with MLS reserve teams. Iof true reserves are ever estabilshed, I see them as more likely being in D3 or outside the USL setup, especially since there is no USL-MLS agreement any longer.
But if I remember correctly, the setup is currently that MLS teams and A-League teams can make individual deals with each other. It's just not a league-wide thing like it was before.
You're absolutely right, however, the A-League is a Division II league and finally seems to be weeding out some of the sediment at its bottom, sending down to D3 or dropping it altogether. I don't think the A-League is the right place for a true MLS reserve team.
I'm waiting for the details of the 2004 FIRE preseason fan tour to Michoacan. Maybe you can merge this with the other thread since there seems to be more beneath the veneer of the press release.
Thought I would paste here what Morelia has on their website. I wasn't familiar with all of this. Sorry that I'm too tired to translate. 2 more cases to read before tomorrow. I'm posting this because I don't want anyone else to search as long as I did for the same material. If you have any specific translating questions, I'll do that tomorrow (today?). One interesting note, the agreement says that we'll play them here in 2003 and 2006, and we'll play them there in 2004 and 2007 (2 out of every 3 years). This is assuming that they use the home team listed first that is used in Europe. O.K. another interesting note. Two tournaments with AEG teams and two Mexican teams are planned. More. . . (sigh, but I'm interested) loans of up to 3 months with under 18 players, 1 to 3 per team. (Hmm, Capano is only 16, who else is eligible?) To reduce costs, the teams are going to try to work with universities to use dorm rooms for housing. MISIÓN DEL CONVENIO Desarrollo de programas y estrategias conjuntas para el intercambio de conocimiento deportivos y creación de nuevos negocios para el mejoramiento económico de ambos clubes Este sería el primer convenio entre un equipo mexicano y uno de la MLS, lo que sería un ejemplo de cooperación y creación de nuevas oportunidades de negocio. ÁREAS DE TRABAJO Área deportiva Área Comercial Área Mercadológica Área de Operación Tiempo de duración del Convenio: 2 a 4 años PASOS A SEGUIR DESARROLLO DEL ACUERDO Y AFINACIÓN DE PUNTOS, AGOSTO 2002 INICIO DEL ACUERDO SEPTIEMBRE 2002 LANZAMIENTO EN AMBAS CIUDADES CON CONFERENCIAS DE PRENSA CONCEPTOS ÁREA DEPORTIVA: - Partidos amistosos. 2 cada tres años a visita recíproca. ( Fire Vs. Monarcas 2003 y 2006- Monarcas - Fire 2004 y 2007) Negociación sobre boletaje vendido, esquilmos y merchandising. - Planeación de dos torneos con equipos de AEG y dos equipos de México - Fire visitará Morelia para hacer pretemporada primavera del 2003 -Intercambio de jugadores. Períodos de tres meses a una año. Jugadores no mayores de 18 años y de 1 a 3 por equipo - Intercambio de entrenadores. Vista de Cuerpos técnicos a entrenamientos. Períodos no mayores a un mes. Chicago de Noviembre a Diciembre. Monarcas de Junio a Julio - Intercambio de Programas para Fuerzas Básicas - Visita de equipos juveniles y participación en torneos regionales * Para abatir costos, ambos clubes se comprometen a realizar acuerdos con Universidades para que estudiantes reciban a los jugadores en casas particulares y posibles patrocinadores. ÁREA COMERCIAL - Posible acuerdo comercial Azteca Américas -Chicago-Monarcas - Creación de paquetes conjuntos para publicidad. Temporada 2003. En Uniformes, Estadios, Actividades Etc. - Fire asistirá a Monarcas para buscar posibles negocios con la comunidad mexicana en Chicago - Venta de Productos en ambas tiendas oficiales y afuera de los estadios - Desarrollo de Web Site para venta de entras y artículos ÁREA MERCADOLÓGICA - Involucrar a gobiernos locales y embajadas, para apoyo logístico, económico y promocional - Trabajo conjunto con el mercado mexicano-michoacano en Chicago, para expandir productos de Morelia y aumentar asistencia para el Fire - Junta 1 o 2 al año, para intercambio de información publicitaria y mercadológica - Eventos culturales, fotográficos etc. para incremento de la pasión por ambos clubes - Manejo conjunto de estrategias para medios de comunicación sobre este acuerdo, así como intercambio de actividades con medios. - Visita de líderes de porras de ambos clubes ÁREA DE OPERACIÓN - Intercambio de conocimientos en manejo y operación de estadio, estacionamientos etc. - Manejo y apoyo a porras - FIRE y Monarcas trabajarán estrategias conjuntas para el desarrollo de actividades antes, durante y después de los partidos.
Morelia - Apertura 2003 In case anyone was mildly interested, here is a link for Morelia. It lists thier results and players( with bio) as well as thier stats in this years apertura. There is more info but if you are not a spanish speaker you may have trouble navagating... http://www.mediotiempo.com/equipos/equipo.php?id_equipo=9&id_torneo=16
[Sigh] Wish the Fire would do a similar agreement with a Polish team [/Sigh] BTW, looks good. How about the A-League team playing in Naperville?
Well, one, I doubt that's their market (though it would be a good idea) and b, the press relase tlaks about a PDL team, not an A-League one.
It looks like Monarcas could send 3-4 top prospects from their Fuerzas Basicas to spend the summer in Chicago with the CFR. Maybe a young (U-23) first team player or two could hook up with the senior side a la the two from Boca who were on the MetroScum roster this past season. Finally, turning the partnership the other way, someone like Jonathon Bolanos could find some first team playing time in the MFL, where he's already had some success.
So Morelia will be sending players this way also, correct? If so could we get Dario Franco!! Or Maybe Naiva??
And somebody added another SI on the roster and said that Ralph was actually a TI. So, if Ralph is a Transitional International because he's just making his way onto the Jamaica team, what was he when he was just from Jamaica? What if the player from Morelia was just a Mexican, not on the national team? What are the limits for foreigners with no national team connections?