NSR: CHICAGO Political Thread ***HIGHLY TOXIC - ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK***

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  1. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
  2. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Member+

    Jul 28, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  3. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
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  4. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    They should probably try getting a team first.
     
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  5. juicecrewallstar

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Mar 1, 2019
    i can't imagine they mean sharing a stadium with the White Sox, right?

    gotta be like a campus

    baseball/anything shared fields are terrible
     
  6. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    I was being sarcastic because I don’t want to share a football stadium. I’d be happy if we fixed the mistake by the lake and let the Bears build something and we reconfigure Soldier Field as a 40k stadium that would be suitable for high school and college events, as well the Fire of course.

    EDIT: Ingress and egress suck by the lake. Get rid of 90% of the car roads and parking and add a museum campus train.
     
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  7. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Member+

    Jul 28, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I mean, shared baseball football stadiums suck but if we (taxpayers) are paying for it, one stadium should be cheaper than two. Not going to happen though, the greedy old bastards running the teams want all of the rewards with none of the risks and will probably get it.
     
  8. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    No, no, no!!!
    Two are better than one.
    Just think of the jobs that would be created by building two!
    Those are high paying construction jobs!

    Not to mention, the game day (and non-game day) operations for both!
    Why that could be hundreds of new jobs, all for just a few billion taxpayer dollars.

    Sure, they are seasonal, part time, low wage jobs, but there could be HUNDREDS of them!

    Don't you get it?
    It's all about the jobs!
    AND ECOMONIC PROSPERITY!
     
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  9. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    So should the fire. But then, I recall the plan being:

    1. Move to NSF,
    2. ???
    3. PROFIT!

    That aside, as pathetic as the Sox are, they've won their league's title more recently than the fire have won theirs.

    Which 90%?

    Would that also include ridding the city of DuSable LSD?
     
  10. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    The park around the stadium is littered with roads. Some are obviously required to move things in and out of the stadium (and Northerly Island’s temporary theater) but they should close down all but the bare minimum needed to facilitate running the stadium and ban cars from the area. Most parking should be repurposed, remaining ADA compliant of course.

    I was mainly speaking of the access roads around the stadium taking up valuable park space but I’m also open to shutting down LSD to cars. The western edge of the stadium is a ghost town of asphalt sandwiched between highway and the stadium itself. Not very pleasant.
     
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  11. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    Yeah, that would make NSF rather inaccessible for folks that are differently able, and would probably not pass legal scrutiny.

    Shutting down Du Sable LSD is a pipe dream.
     
  12. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Oh I know. That’s why I wasn’t considering that we how the stadium should be handled if the Bears leave. The city should want to reduce LSD’s footprint and increase accessibility to the lakefront. Cars impede that accessibility so we should all hope for a reduction in the highway.
     
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  13. Mac97

    Mac97 Member+

    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    A dedicated bus lane each way would be an awfully low bar to start with.
    Though that's apparently a big ask of the powers that be.
     
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  14. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
  15. Pennsylvania Dave

    Jul 31, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    The comedy practically writes itself
     
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  16. Mac97

    Mac97 Member+

    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
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    Did you see where the Onion announced that they were done writing anymore about Trump because they can't match his inanity?
     
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  17. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    https://chicago.suntimes.com/politi...k-district-board-riotfest-community-criticism

    I was speaking with my barber yesterday as he used to live on the Southwest of the park's edge, but is now about a block away. He said what I've been saying in that it's not the constituency that is against the fest and no one he knows wants it gone. Most locals seem to love it.

    Anecdotes are just that, but it's what I'm surrounded with so it informs my opinion. Sounds like Riot Fest is working with the city on a multi-year plan so hopefully the money it brings in shows some long term benefits for the park.
     
  18. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Wait a goshdurn minute, @bunge!
    YOU have a barber?!?!?

    Admittedly, I haven't seen you since I moved up north during the Pandemic, but, and I think I can speak for most of us, that we just thought "all of that" just spontaneously happened!

    Glad someone is speaking out.

    OF COURSE, the picture in "The Bright One" was of a Friends of the Park protester.
    It is so sad that what should be a great organization, is just so ass backwards about the City.
     
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  19. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    It's only to make my mom happy...
     
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  20. . . . though compromises were made.

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  21. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
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  22. Mac97

    Mac97 Member+

    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I can still hear 70's and 80's FOP President, John Deneen, saying something along the lines of, "There is nothing wrong with what these officers did. They were acting fully within their rights and duties, acting to protect the upstanding citizens of Chicago. Commander Burge is as fine and upstanding officer as there is in the Chicago Police."

    And we get to pick up the tab.
     
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  23. Pennsylvania Dave

    Jul 31, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Another ex-Trump voter tries to assassinate Donald Trump.

    [​IMG]
     
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  24. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
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  25. It seems that whatever your point of view is on the subject you can pull a study out to prove your point. If placing surveillance devices where crimes are more likely to be committed is overpolicing then place them equally throughout the city. ShotSpotter may, or may not work, but until the root causes of crime can be addressed and remediated I'd like to deter the criminals. It's what most of the citizens and their alders seem to want.
     

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