Chicago - My Kind of Town

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  1. If you don't love my mother enough I have a little story from my youth I vividly remember. After Richard Nixon lost for California governor in 1962 she pointed at his image on the TV and said, "He's not to be trusted." I was a precocious 6 year old.
     
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  3. Hmmm, wifey tipped me of on this at the beginning of the year.

    Great to join @kchappellnews this morning for her story on the utter mess of Cook County property tax bills this year. We're calling for an investigation by the Cook County inspector general into why Tyler Technologies continued to rake in record-breaking contracts from county…

     
  4. AAAAND, Last Friday Tyler Technologies had their license revoked by the Illinois Secretary Of State.

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  5. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
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    Tyler Technologies has sucked for the past 10 years.

    They did manage to work out some of the awfulness from the initial court e-filing site, but they still suck.
    (I was asked to become a trainer for them when I ran the legal clinic in Chicago, as I and one of my associates were training so many students and staff and paralegals, etc. We said "Yeah, no thanks").
     
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  6. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
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    May 2, 2022
    This is nice to see
     
  7. Mac97

    Mac97 Member+

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    Very good.

    Now about fulltime, dedicated bus lanes on LSD....
    ...and Western Ave....
     
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    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
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  9. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

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    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
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    #109 xtomx, Oct 6, 2025
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2025
    I have read the Executive Order*.
    It is not quite what the various news articles are saying.

    They are not creating "ICE-free zones" and should not be called that. ICE can arrest with a Judicial warrant, like any other law enforcement agency. The City cannot stop that.

    However, that is not what ICE generally does.

    I do not know if this Executive Order will stand up in court, but it could be a VERY positive step in the right direction.

    First, it states that public lots (and any private lots that wish to participate) can put up signs stating
    This property is owned and controlled by the City of Chicago.
    It may not be used for civil immigration enforcement as a:
    Staging Area
    Processing Location, or
    Operations Base​

    Second, it can slow down the crazy "raids" and fascist strong arming we have been seeing.

    Well, as of right now, ICE are NOT required to identify themselves or present JUDICIAL warrants when they conduct a raid.

    There is no law that I am aware of that states that ICE has the right to be on any non-public or non-federal property without a Judicial warrant. In fact all of the research I have looked at states they do not have the authority to enter private property.

    An argument could be made those ICE agents are trespassing UNLESS they have a Judicial warrant.

    Note, this is not the same thing as an Administrative Warrant, which is merely a piece of paper created by ICE to identify those they aim to detain
    “Warrant for Arrest of Alien” (Form I-200) or “Notice of Custody Determination” (Form I-247)

    The Executive Order is fairly carefully worded to say this EO is NOT interfering with the "execution of lawful judicial warrants or the enforcement of criminal law."

    Of course, the White House had a reasoned, measure response!
    We cannot expect anything else from them.

    I won't link to the Xcerment, they do not deserve more clicks
    Rapid Response 47
    The White House
    @ RapidResponse47
    Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson just announced he signed an executive order creating "ICE Free Zones" to ban ICE agents from city property. This is SICK. He is aiding and abetting criminal illegal immigrant killers, rapists, traffickers, and gang bangers.


    Clearly, they did not bother to actually read the Executive Order, but just threw out more click bait for their rabid base.

    *https://chicityclerk.s3.us-west-2.a...df?VersionId=4IyaMv4OpR2Vltis6BTY0JVlGOkyqqrW
     
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  10. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Obviously an executive order can’t stop legal proceedings but it can interfere with the illegal ones.
     
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  11. If an executive like the President can issue executive orders with dubious legal validity why can't an executive like a Mayor?
     
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  12. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

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    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
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    Not really, but close.

    It is not a question of legal v. illegal.

    The way I read the Executive Order is differentiating between Judicial warrants, which require compliance
    and
    Administrative warrants, which do NOT authorize entry onto private property.

    ICE are using deceptive tactics to enter private property.
    Sometimes they shout "Warrant" and, well, we have all watched enough cop shows to know that "means."
    The problem is the cop shows are (of course) talking about Judicial Warrants, signed by judge.

    That is not what ICE are using for many people who are undocumented. They are using Administrative warrants, signed by an ICE official and do not grant entry onto private property.
     
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  13. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
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  15. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
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    This is just how he got to Congress. Gutierrez did precisely the same thing for Chuy.

    Chuy (like Gutierrez before him) was my Congress critter in Chicago. He was a nice guy, but did not do much for his constituents.
     
  16. Sorry to disappoint them by not thanking them for choosing my congresscritter for me again. They gamed Marie Newman out of the picture real good didn't they, for the second time.

    Bastards
     
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