Chelsea vs Liverpool-League Cup Final-Feb 25 [R]

Keep the ladder handy, lads, we're not done yet.

 

Ever wonder what $1 Billion worth of plastic looks like? Well, here it is:

 

I was sat in the middle of the second strip of grass, the lighter shade, 5 rows back so, as it happened, I had as good a view as the linesman. Absolutely no-one around us was bothered. It was so definitely off that I was certain it wouldn’t even go to VAR.

The minute the ball crossed the goal line, the linesman raised his flag, in fairness. Then we had to wait for a public recitation of War And Peace before VAR said, “oh yeah, good call, offside”.

 

He was moving far better than half the players on the field after 120”.

 

Which is exactly my point. NOT a clear and obvious error!!!

 

As Shearer says:

“I couldn’t understand it either. Chilwell was marking Van Dijk, not Colwill. He might have got there, he may not have got there.
“But once the on-field decision was given you need something massive to overturn that, especially when it’s something so subjective.

Alan Shearer left annoyed by what VAR did in Liverpool vs Chelsea game yesterday (tbrfootball.com)

 

the subjective interpretation I’m talking about in that post you responded to was the interpretation done by the ref after he was asked to go to the monitor to review the incident.

I don’t think clear and obvious in this context is about whether Colwill can/would be able to make a plausible challenge. Because if Kavanaugh did indeed say to VAR “I didn’t see ANY contact with Endo in real time” or something like that, that is all they need.. Because there obviously was contact. And that would be the “clear and obvious” hurdle satisfied to tell him he should have another look.

BUT of course we would need to know exactly what was said, to be certain. Perhaps that info will come out.

 

Angle shown is shockingly shitty. No excuse for that.

 

Former pro ref Keith Hackett writing for The Telegraph.

“The decision to rule out Virgil van Dijk’s opener at Wembley was incredibly harsh. Wataru Endo should not have been flagged offside and was merely standing his ground with Levi Colwill.”

“It goes back to the inconsistency of decision making among the VAR and officials and until that is improved we are going to witness these flashpoints. This happens every week up and down the country, where holding offences go unpunished.”

“Wataru Endo stood his ground – space is not owned by anyone on a football field – and there was nowhere he could go. Where is he expected to stand? The law says that an offence occurs when a player in an offside position interferes with the movement of the opponent towards the ball but I am not sure Colwill was getting to Van Dijk and he appeared to run into the Liverpool midfielder just as much as Endo made contact with him.”

“Liverpool’s sense of injustice does not stop there, however, and by the time Van Dijk scored they should have been playing 10 men anyway.”

“Moises Caicedo’s foul on Ryan Gravenberch in the first half was reckless and it endangered the safety of an opponent. Again, there’s plenty of inconsistency here: you saw on Saturday that Harry Maguire escaped a sending off for Manchester United but Billy Gilmour was dismissed for Brighton.”

“Yes, it is a final and you want it to remain 11 vs 11 at all times, but it was a sending off offence. Chelsea got away with one there.”

The Telegraph

 

What's his injury? Given the way he jumped that gate - surely not much???

 

That argument makes no sense to me. But agree to disagree.

 

that one took me a few seconds..... that's a hoot!

 

I honestly believe those guys in the VAR booth are just bored. They're used to making decisions, so after a while they just start making $hit up.

 

The really funny thing about it is that this is an offside that technically shouldn't matter even though it is (if someone had thought about it when writing the law) - he's actually affecting the play less by virtue of being offside than were he onside and starting closer to the guy he's going to block.

The theory of the refereeing is well, because he's off he has to then be considered to be off and affecting the play.

By this reading, those players who do what Arsenal do and run back onside are always affecting the play by creating their line of uncertainty for the defensive line (whilst being offside doing it) just as much as someone blocking another player's line of movement are. It's merely a different way of starting to create an effect whilst offside.

 

I just like Diaz.

 

hear, hear.

and you were heard, Samark!!

 

we're lucky Jones came away from that being able to walk at all

 

even on the tv, as soon as the ball got to him I said "offside". plain as day ....

edit: not Sterling, the guy who passed it to him. miles off.