Chelsea Keeper Injuries: The Big Picture

Discussion in 'Chelsea' started by the101er, Oct 19, 2006.

  1. the101er

    the101er New Member

    Jan 29, 2003
    Today, Carlo Cudicini has come out and openly complained about the refereeing in the game against Reading. An act, that will undoubtedly see him receive some sort of disciplinary sanction. No irony in that...

    The article on Soccernet (you all know how to find that by now) mentions that Gordon Taylor has suggested that rather than calling fouls when keepers are injured: goalkeepers should wear hockey helmets!

    The PFA is saying: there was absolutely nothing wrong with the two challenges that knocked the Chelsea goalkeepers out of the game, but we'd suggest one small change to English football: goalkeepers should wear hockey helmets.

    How can you claim that a knee to the head and a collision that knocks a player unconcious and he swallows his tongue are just "part of the game" and at the same time suggest radically altering the game?
     
  2. fernb8

    fernb8 Member+
    Staff Member

    Aug 12, 2002
    fecking pathetic

    I wonder how the FA would have reacted if Van der Sar then Ben Foster were knocked out?

    Nice to see the FA has there priorities straight, worrying about a reserve match between the Scousers!
     
  3. Middle Of The Shed

    Middle Of The Shed New Member

    Feb 20, 2004
    London
    More to the point, I'd wonder how different the reaction would be if say one of our players had done that, I have no doubt it would have been slightly (ok majorly) different.

    Amazing Barton shows his arse.....punished.
    Cech knocked out, concussed, could have died, the works.......not a ********ing thing.
     
  4. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Don't be absurd. I'm saddened by the extent of Cech's injury but I don't think the challenge that put him out is any different from several challenges we've already seen this season. Its an unfortunate accident and we all hope that he recovers.

    Now, the bit about United - well you've just got to be kidding right?

    If it was a United player they might have awarded Hunt a medal. When Rio missed a drug test and then voluteered to take another (hair follicle test so no results would have changed) got an 8 month ban.

    Rooney and Scholes got a red cards (Rooney's was laughable) in a PRE SEASON tournament in Holland and got 3 match bans for the premiership. There's virtually no history of the FA being United sympathizers - but this isn't an argument that should be happening anyway.
     
  5. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Find me one challenge of a player driving his knee into a keeper's skull.
     
  6. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Hunt didn't do that either.

    watch the replays from behind Hunt (freeze frame if need be) and you see Cech's right leg take out Hunt's standing leg as he slides along the ground. Take out someone's standing leg and their knee is going to go down as they go forward - and (from that moment) there'd be nothing they could do about it.

    Yes, he should have jumped out the way sooner and the collision is down to him, but he did not purposefully drive his knee into anyone's head - well not unless you just want to believe that.
     
  7. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    I never said he did it intentionally Richard. Whether or not he meant to hurt Cech (which we'll never really know) I am sure that he certainly didn't want to do THAT to Cech.
     
  8. the101er

    the101er New Member

    Jan 29, 2003
    I don't want to start a discussion about what if at happened to them instead of us. What I find shocking is that the head of the PFA can say keepers should wear helmets. He should say, keepers should be better protected and even accidental collisions (not contact) should be punished. Then the onus will fall on the field player to give the keeper space.

    But if he said anything like that, it would be equivalent to agreeing with Chelsea, Cudicini and Mourinho. So, instead we get helmets. It's ludicrous. Nobody has to blame Hunt, but to say the answer is helmets -- in my mind at least -- says both Reading players were guilty of being overaggressive.

    When will my view change? When the PFA makes goalkeeping helmets mandatory.
     
  9. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    fair enough. It's just the way it seemed when I read it.
     
  10. SCBozeman

    SCBozeman Member

    Jun 3, 2001
    St. Louis
    How should the field players be punished: Foul called? Carded? Banned?

    Depending on what the solution is, you either have little effect (if, say, Sonko were called for a foul, he'd still do what he did), or affect the game. Would ANY attacking player be allowed near the keeper? Would have have to get out of the way?
     
  11. Dear_Claudio

    Dear_Claudio Member+

    Feb 6, 2005
    Buffalo, New York
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Neither challenges were on purpose, but both were dangerous. Clattering the keeper like that is a yellow card.
     
  12. Clan

    Clan Member

    Apr 23, 2002
    This is the part that is not getting enough attention, imho.

    The FA needs to start instructing players that this is what is expected of them, upon pain of (lengthy) match bans.
     
  13. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Chelsea
    Ukraine
    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
    issuing a card should be automatic for such challenge.
     
  14. RealMadGunner

    RealMadGunner Member

    Jul 19, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC

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