Spaghetti Weston: McKennie at Juventus

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by hokeydokey, Jul 7, 2016.

  1. Lance90

    Lance90 Member

    Feb 7, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    It's a time thing ... whether sustained combat or months of drudgery interrupted by moments of sheer terror or just being away from home for 6 months ... it's not the same as flying in, staying in a hotel, and then having to perform for 90 minutes before going home, mentally or physically. The comparison diminishes military deployments without even getting to the life and death aspect.

    A salesperson flying into another city for a finals presentation is maybe the equivalent.
     
  2. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    I never said they were the same thing. I just referenced military brass recognizing that everyone needs to go home after a while. Even the folks stationed in England or Italy or Germany typically ought to go home after two or three years. I think being away from home for years on end is tough no matter how much money is in the bank or what your day job is.
     
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  3. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    That's just cause you never been to my home...
     
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  4. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/37802296/pulisic-admits-chelsea-season-really-tough-ahead-cnl

    no it is not the same as the military - but from personal experience it is nice to come back to the states and be near friends and family and "hometown". For a multitude of reasons - CP, Wes, Tyler and many others probably have a great smile on their face when they are back with the national teammates.
     
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  5. aeschylusdanceparty

    NYRB
    United States
    Jun 3, 2021
    Not touching the rest of this, but England are a better national squad and it is not even close to being a coin toss. England made the semifinals of the '18 Cup, finals of the last Euro, and the quarters of this World Cup narrowly losing to France. They cruised through the group stage even with the desultory tie against the US, while the US wasn't nearly as comfortable against either Iran or Wales. Sure anyone can beat or tie anyone on any given day, but overall they have significantly more talent and have been better in recent high level tournaments. This is silly.
     
  6. USA-Zebuel

    USA-Zebuel Member+

    Mar 26, 2013
    Club:
    Colón de Santa Fe
    Analogies of height: Weston in transition.
     
  7. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Juve announces it is pulling out of the Super-League, leaving Barca to play Real 38 times every year.
     
  8. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    The JPMorgan Goldman Sachs League may have been defeated for now, but they'll be back. They won't stop until they kill the game.
     
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  9. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, less than they do currently?
     
  10. abw

    abw Member+

    Nov 10, 1999
    Athens, GA
     
  11. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
     
  12. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
    SoCal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That was a nice ball into space for Weah on the Pulisic second goal!
     
  13. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Yeah, Wes can play. He may not be "the" man, but he's generally useful if deployed properly.
     
  14. ShayG

    ShayG Member+

    Celtic
    United States
    Aug 9, 2021
  15. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    He’s very inconsistent. But in a big match he usually plays well.
     
  16. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Perhaps but that's mostly because he's a bit of an odd mix and coaches don't always utilize him correctly. Leeds never knew he could do long throw ins until Big Sam? They had him playing as the deep defender on corners and free kicks? Had Adams stayed healthy he would have looked a lot better playing farther forward.
     
  17. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    It was always odd how Leeds tried to get Wes to play - like no one know how to search Juventus highlights or something.

    But Gracia was a mistake. They needed to start playing negative, route-one, scrape for 1 point, footie much earlier than when they hired Sam. They needed him starting in Jan or so.
     
  18. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    New guys often get pushed back on corners because they either don’t know the different “plays” well enough to not get in someone’s way or they haven’t yet proven in practice what they’re capable of. Corner kicks result in goals so infrequently that a manager isn’t going to risk losing the locker room by pushing a club veteran out of the area so that the new guy can have a chance.
     
  19. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Inconsistent in what way? All players have bad matches. I'd say he's usually quite consistent when used appropriately.
     
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  20. Deeneaus

    Deeneaus Member+

    Aug 29, 2007
    America/Deutschland
    Club:
    Arminia Bielefeld
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So disappointed in you lot. The guy had his damn shirt ripped off and not ONE fat joke!? :ROFLMAO:

    Hell of a match from my boy. Always funny to see a lil about face afterwards. As if he’s played night and day different. This game was the exact same approach Gracia tried to get him to play at Leeds. Unfortunately, however, most of his squad SUCKED. He didn’t suddenly find a new level or get consistent because of positive vibes in camp lol. Sometimes the club situation is shite. We know this.

    Folk gone see what they wanna see. Just like me, but oh well that’s why we BigSoccer. :)
     
  21. iad_22201

    iad_22201 Member+

    Jan 2, 2009
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Certainly easier to look decent against a relatively weak national team side like Mexico than against Premier League level opposition...
     
  22. felloveranddidanadu

    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Dec 12, 2009
    Club:
    San Jose Frogs
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Great bouquet and subtle salty notes on this one
     
  23. mace

    mace Member+

    Indy 11
    United States
    Jun 5, 2004
    USA
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    US Fed appealed McKennie’s red card suspension but it was denied. No maple syrup for Wes
     
  24. Grumpy in LA

    Grumpy in LA Bringing It Since 1807™

    Sep 10, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also easier to look good with a team that has a coherent plan and players who want to be there. At Juventus, McKennie played well against notably better club teams than some of Leeds’ peer group at the bottom of the table.
     
  25. RidiculousLichaj

    May 18, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    if you look at the numbers they’d very likely have stayed up if they kept Marsch. GD was -8 through 20 matches. While not good, that’s not indicative of relegation level performance. Their GD after Marsch left was -22 in 18 matches. That is relegation level. They didn’t need Big Sam, but they definitely didn’t need Gracia. But fan pressure was too much and Jesse was the scapegoat for Bamford’s sitter misses and their shoddy defenders. .
     

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