Changing Landscapes - Chicagoland

Discussion in 'Youth & HS Soccer' started by VolklP19, Dec 28, 2016.

  1. Brace Yourself

    Chelsea
    Turkey
    Jan 19, 2019
  2. illinisoccer

    illinisoccer Member

    Aug 15, 2005
    Chicago, IL
    Get ready for another weekend with closed fields
     
  3. illinisoccer

    illinisoccer Member

    Aug 15, 2005
    Chicago, IL
  4. VolklP19

    VolklP19 Member+

    Jun 23, 2010
    Illinois
    Just moved 5 of my teams to Canlan for indoor training. $100 per our for 1/3 field.

    Really had no choice as we have missed 3 technical trainings as a result of the rain.
     
  5. lncolnpk

    lncolnpk Member+

    Mar 5, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I already accepted it.
     
  6. illinisoccer

    illinisoccer Member

    Aug 15, 2005
    Chicago, IL
    The last 4 seasons have been insane
     
  7. upper left

    upper left Member

    Crystal Palace
    Uruguay
    Jan 27, 2018
    Topdrawer is a fun website, but I don't think they put a whole lot of effort into the fidelity of their club content. I think much of it is self-reported, not much gets verified.

    Here is their explanation of their rankings:
    ((TeamRank is the comprehensive team-ranking system devised by TopDrawerSoccer.com to provide an objective and common-sense approach to determining which elite youth soccer teams are the best in the nation.

    The rankings, updated monthly, are primarily results-based, with a nod toward the league and championship competitions that emulate how excellence is determined in leading soccer nations around the world.

    Tournaments are also included but at a reduced value due to the many mitigating factors involving such events, including attrition and guest players.

    A final layer of executive evaluation is provided to account for variables that often impact results, thus ensuring that the monthly lists are not subjective, but are not purely mechanical.
    ))

    I'm guessing FCU got a very healthy portion of "executive evaluation" added to its ranking. Their oldest team has only played two games so far this fall, including a 5-0 victory over Salvo, possibly the worst side in the history of GDA. Sockers U19 also were treated very nicely in their ranking.

    Two games this weekend, including FCU v. Sockers... so perhaps their will be a bit of a reality check and less reliance on "executive evaluation" when the table is updated.

    YSR is way better, but even they struggle to get their ranking method right with so little GDA-ECNL-MRL crossover games played.
     
  8. lncolnpk

    lncolnpk Member+

    Mar 5, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Was at the OB Polo Fields today, What happened to those fields?
     
  9. illinisoccer

    illinisoccer Member

    Aug 15, 2005
    Chicago, IL
    Lots of games in the rain and no time to recover. They used to have the golf course staff put in new patches all the time but probably hard to keep up after last spring and this fall
     
  10. Ryan7852

    Ryan7852 Member

    Barcelona
    United States
    Mar 24, 2019
    U14 Sockers DA 2-1 over FC United for first win.

    That sockers team has 4 starters out to injuries since beginning of season. Know nothing how the game went other than a fifth girl now out with an injury.

    Starting #9, wing, center back and one more have been out for most all games. Looking at record / level of competition given those realities one could presume this team is going to be pretty good when healthy.
     
  11. VolklP19

    VolklP19 Member+

    Jun 23, 2010
    Illinois
    Canlan gave us half a field for $100 because no one was using it. I am signing a contract for 2 hours at $200.00 for one practice a week indoors on half a field for 3 teams. What a deal!
     
  12. VolklP19

    VolklP19 Member+

    Jun 23, 2010
    Illinois
    We have 1 player out with a shattered fibula and tibia. One out with a foot sprain, one player who is out with head injuries, one sprained ankle and others are just limping around. It's like hockey the higher you get!
     
  13. Ryan7852

    Ryan7852 Member

    Barcelona
    United States
    Mar 24, 2019
    and people say soccer is a “sissy” sport. Puleeeze.
     
  14. VolklP19

    VolklP19 Member+

    Jun 23, 2010
    Illinois
  15. SpiceBoy

    SpiceBoy Member

    Barcelona
    United States
    Aug 2, 2017
    Footage of Sockers FC 18/19 GDA from Kelly Clarkson show
    Brandi Chastain And World Cup Players Surprise Chicago Girls’ Soccer Team
     
  16. VolklP19

    VolklP19 Member+

    Jun 23, 2010
    Illinois
    06/05 DA players got to walk the teams out for their recent game at Soldier Field. My kid got to do that twice as well as for CONCACAF games. Pretty sweet deal.
     
  17. Toe Poke

    Toe Poke Member

    Manchester United
    United States
    Dec 11, 2018
    4 of the Sockers girls from the clip on the Kelly Clarkson Show also played a small field competition during halftime of the US WNT game vs South Korea at Soldier Field.
     
    VolklP19 repped this.
  18. GotSoccerIsDumb

    Fire
    United States
    May 30, 2019
    Got coffee with some of my old coach friends today. Don't know why but sometimes this forum and talking soccer gives me that itch to get back into it. If only it didn't consume lives lol.

    So the latest was that FCU is being shopped around by their owners. Word was that was the plan from the beginning when this company took it over: organize and turn a quick buck. What would a youth soccer club be valued at? I mean its not like the very small number of for-profit clubs actually turn a big profit. They don't have any land assets outside of some warehouse spaces. Be interesting to see how that plays out. The rumor about the one coach being let go from the HS job hasn't appeared to affect his position at the club. That's positive.

    Heard that Sockers is continuing their re-structure bringing in a new GM. Not sure who it is. Also told that more than one of their DA coaches are not happy with the changes and are looking around. One boys coach one girls coach. Be a shame if they leave. Sockers have been the most consistent of any of the top clubs in the area in both team performance and staff.

    Saw that the Sockers/FCU derby scored are posted. Sockers winning at 14 and 19, with ties at 15,16,17. Heard the 19s was ugly for FCU but the rest were good games. To be fair Sockers have a second U17 going to YNT camp in November who plays on their 19s who also have the leading scorer in the country right now fwiw. FCU have a U16 who's scoring for fun. I guess its not all bad? ;)
     
  19. VolklP19

    VolklP19 Member+

    Jun 23, 2010
    Illinois
    I think I officially don't care anymore. :eek:
     
  20. Ryan7852

    Ryan7852 Member

    Barcelona
    United States
    Mar 24, 2019
    Interesting to see how FCU would be valued. Wonder if that word is getting out to parents and what effect that will have with top players.


    Re:Sockers: hope that GM is a stellar hire that can retain/attract talent.
     
  21. Concerned

    Concerned Member

    Fire
    France
    Jun 30, 2018
    Common knowledge it is up for sale, a lot of big salaries to pay and more competition for players popping up all around them.

    Girls DA surviving for now, but they have a load of PT players that are top club team players that want to play HS, but they are just plugging the holes for now. Heard from numerous parents that they have some FT players that have been getting subbed or played up (a weaker 2005 girl and two weak 2004s played with the u19s last week as they were destined to get beat anyway) when these PT players are there.

    They will struggle to field teams once these kids either have MRL or State Cup games and even worse when they all play HS in the spring
     
  22. upper left

    upper left Member

    Crystal Palace
    Uruguay
    Jan 27, 2018
    Another poster said last week that a quick flip was their plan all along. Is this going to be a quick flip for a profit, or a quick dump because they have reassessed what the opportunity is?

    Friends told me they were very quick to try and monetize their investment by selling all sorts of al-a-carte club suggested additional training programs. Maybe that didn't quite pan out the way they projected?

    Maybe they bought to get some institutional knowledge, now they will go back to focusing more on tournaments and soccer experiences where the money is, and get away from the hard work of developing soccer players.

    Anyone know what they paid or what they are asking? That would be interesting to know!
     
  23. Concerned

    Concerned Member

    Fire
    France
    Jun 30, 2018
    Not sure, but wonder what happened to the surplus they had put away before they bought it.

    Would love to know how much they want to sell it for.

    Definitely trying to make money off every single aspect, they are certainly taking pay to play to new limits. Huge mark ups on travel, own tournaments , parking fees, concessions, private training, uniforms at 300 percent mark ups with loads of added stuff players will never use, rosters upward of 20+ players. Sending their teams to extra clubs tournaments so these other clubs have to attend their own tournaments. They think nothing of 8 teams on a field for practice.

    https://www.travelfirstagency.com/

    https://www.soccereventsgroup.com/
     
  24. VolklP19

    VolklP19 Member+

    Jun 23, 2010
    Illinois
    #2374 VolklP19, Oct 23, 2019
    Last edited: Oct 23, 2019
    So whats the latest on th Fall season for the boys and girls in Chicagoland?

    Looks like we are winding down our last few weeks - indoor training and games are being announced.

    On the side we are looking at games on 2 teams at The Mac and 1-2 evenings of Futsal at Lifezone - all local which is really nice.
     
  25. Regista

    Regista Member

    Barcelona
    United States
    Feb 22, 2019
    #2375 Regista, Oct 23, 2019
    Last edited: Oct 23, 2019
    Playoffs for top 16 teams in 07G MWC qualifier for Prem 1/2, First division spots starting this weekend.
    Top 4 seeds:
    Fire South Premier, ELA, Evolution, Galaxy 07.
    Next 4:
    GLSA
    Galaxy 08
    FC Alliance
    Wizard FC
     

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