Changing Landscapes - Chicagoland

Discussion in 'Youth & HS Soccer' started by VolklP19, Dec 28, 2016.

  1. Girlsarebetteratsoccer85

    Man city
    United States
    Feb 6, 2025
    I was really disappointed to see the Illinois high school girls final be played this way (O’Falllon vs Naperville North).

    basically kick ball the entire game.
     
  2. Soccerharold

    Soccerharold New Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Nov 22, 2021
    Chicago, Il
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is the majority of high school soccer.
     
  3. ILBlues

    ILBlues Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Sep 26, 2024
    Had a little time to kill and looked up FCU class of 25 commits and Galaxy class of 26 commits.

    Not sure too many bottom half of ECNL conference teams could match their recruiting classes.

    Galaxy:
    TCU
    Tennessee
    Georgia
    Purdue
    Marquette (x2)
    Wisconsin
    SIUE

    FCU:
    Ohio State
    Duke
    Northwestern
    Colorado
    Minnesota (x2)
    Utah (x2)
    DePaul

    Both had numerous other D1 and high academic D3 commits as well but those were some of the names that stood out to me.
     
  4. Dirtycleats

    Dirtycleats New Member

    United States
    Apr 18, 2024
    Is it common for clubs to have D1 coaches, coaching their teams?

    NSU has the University of Milwaukee’s head women’s coach, coaching a team. Both of NSU’s D1 recruits went to UWM. EBU just announced the assistant coach is coaching a team too.
     
  5. FootingTheBill

    FootingTheBill New Member

    Feb 20, 2025
    United States
    My daughter’s previous coach always said his job was to keep the girls from playing high school soccer so they can play college soccer.
     
  6. SouthwestSoccer107

    Fire
    United States
    Oct 15, 2023
    In my opinion it depends. ECNL teams in the mid to lower portion of the conference, do manage to put out a number of good recruits, particularly if they are the leading club in their area. For instance, Minnesota Thunder Academy (MTA) and Gretna do well, as do others. I put in the last published by each club, pretty solid given smaller metro areas.

    However, I do agree, clubs like Liverpool, Inter, Rockford, SLSG-Green face significant challenges due to the presence of multiple teams with better “brands” in a large metropolitan areas. This competition leads to a wider variance in their college recruitment classes (some years good & others so-so).

    In Chicago, in my opinion, FCU is widely recognized as top tier club, probably right after Eclipse for girls development, so having many top level recruits should be expected.

    Time will tell with Galaxy. Their 2008 class was impressive and I suspect they may still have a few solid high school recruiting classes coming. However their pipeline for younger players starting with 2012 seems to be under pressure from ECNL teams like Inter and Eclipse. So I’m not sure it’s sustainable ..
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    Minnesota Thunder Academy
    2024 Graduates
    1 x university of Wisconsin- Milwaukee
    1 x Norte Dame
    2 x university of Minnesota
    1 x university of Akron
    1 x University of Wisconsin- Madison
    2 x Army West Point
    1 x University of North Carolina- Charlotte
    1 x Grand Valley State

    Gretna
    Class of 2025
    1 x Oklahoma State
    3 x University of Nebraska- Omaha
    2 x University of Nebraska
    2 x South Dakota State
    1 x Creighton
    1 x University of North Alabama
     
  7. ne plus ultra

    ne plus ultra Member

    Jul 9, 2000
    The real question is are you better off with a middling post in this thread or a top post in one of the many threads with only 2 or 3 pages of comments?

    And another q—do you think this thread should have a second tier sister thread and pro/rel, where the best comments from that thread get promoted to here, and the worst posts here get relegated to the other thread?
     
  8. illinisoccer

    illinisoccer Member

    Aug 15, 2005
    Chicago, IL
    USYS Midwest Regionals are not going great for Illinois teams. I guess that is a byproduct of the increased ECNL/GA opportunities in the area.
     
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  9. HateCrew82

    HateCrew82 New Member

    Barca
    Feb 7, 2025
    Yeah, I was following that myself, and typically root for the non GA/ECNL underdog clubs. North Shore FC has a pretty solid 2011 group, but played poorly in the semis and got sent packing. But then somehow managed to win the Midwest National Cup Regionals. 2 of their players are leaving to Eclipse, and their 2012 goalie is joining the FCU group, which made it to the finals against CUP in Cali.
     
  10. VolklP19

    VolklP19 Member+

    Jun 23, 2010
    Illinois
    I would argue that it is equally a result of USYS creating multiple leagues that are all over the place - all in the name of $$$.
     
  11. illinisoccer

    illinisoccer Member

    Aug 15, 2005
    Chicago, IL
    I think all those teams still compete in the national championship series. It was not too long ago that Eclipse and Sockers were the only clubs with national platforms on the girls side so FC United, Inter, NSA, Galaxy, Team Chicago, etc… were dominating USYS with the players that were slightly below the ECNL level. Now that talent is playing at the other clubs in GA or ECNL or in the regional leagues for those competitions instead of USYS.
     
  12. VolklP19

    VolklP19 Member+

    Jun 23, 2010
    Illinois
    Yes but the mess in USYS mean that many "best of the rest" teams are competing in different leagues which means the competition is watered down and not able to compete against other teams from across the nation/region as well.
     
  13. ILBlues

    ILBlues Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Sep 26, 2024
    The new GA conference for the area is pretty stacked at now u14.

    FCU wins the GA national championship
    Elmbrook wins USYS Regionals and now on to nationals
    Midwest united (was ECNL now GA) won the ECNL Midwest Division
    Jags beat and tied CUP who was a national semifinalist
    Galaxy always dangerous
     
  14. VolklP19

    VolklP19 Member+

    Jun 23, 2010
    Illinois
    I think the GA in the area is better than the ECNL overall in terms of # of teams and solid players.
     
  15. RandomSoccerFan

    United States
    Sep 11, 2022
    Some would agree with you. Most wouldn't. At the 2011G level, it looks like GA Midwest East starts out pretty comparable to ECNL Midwest. (GA Midwest West is miles away).

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    But then by the time you get to the 2009G level, you see that much of the talent has already moved over to ECNL and the teams are significantly stronger.

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  16. ILBlues

    ILBlues Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Sep 26, 2024
    I
    If you did 2012s, especially taking Midwest away from ECNL and adding them to GA it would stack up pretty well. At one point the number one team in Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, Illinois, KY and Wisconsin were GA or soon to be GA (Michigan could be either Midwest or Jags and WI would be Elmbrook) and number 2 in Missouri.

    I think the point is that GA is closer (not equal) to ECNL in the Midwest than most parts of the world.

    And it may be worth noting that there was one ECNL club when the 07/08/09 were youth players deciding to play so it goes to reason that those age groups at Eclipse would be dominate. It is a different landscape the last two years with dilution of talent so the clubs that develop and not aggregate will come up the winners in all likelihood. Let’s see where the 11/12/13s are in 3 years and see if the trend line doesnt revert to the mean.
     
  17. RandomSoccerFan

    United States
    Sep 11, 2022
    Here's what it looks like. 2012G is a similar story to 2011G; GA Midwest East is relatively close to ECNL (West isn't). Yes - the question is what will this look like when they are 3 or 4 years older - will it look more like how 2009G looks now, or will it instead look more like how 2012G looks now.

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  18. bigislandsoccer

    bigislandsoccer New Member

    PSG
    United States
    Mar 12, 2024
    Former Loyola coach Bimbi was named as one of the GA coaches for FCU. Very surprised by this addition. Any idea as to why a D1 coach is coaching GA?
     
  19. illinisoccer

    illinisoccer Member

    Aug 15, 2005
    Chicago, IL
    Seems like you answered your own question when you said he was the former Loyola coach. Likely needs a job and doesn’t want relocate. Also FCU probably pays better than a D1 assistant.
     
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  20. Dirtycleats

    Dirtycleats New Member

    United States
    Apr 18, 2024
    I had a question along those lines, too as I saw that North Shore United has UWM's current Head Women's Coach, coaching its U19s.

    He has an impressive coaching resume - former head coach of the University of California, Berkeley (where he recruited Alex Morgan ) and ASU and had the winningest record at both schools. So I don't think it's just that he needs a job. I've seen some other announcements from other clubs having assistant D1 Coaches also coach club teams.

    Wondering if this is a recruiting hack. Coaches don't have to use the University's recruiting budget to go to events, and they can scout league games and showcases on the Club's expense.
     
  21. VolklP19

    VolklP19 Member+

    Jun 23, 2010
    Illinois
    I think Elite SC did this with Brian McBride. Not so sure he was actually coaching. In a funny twist - his kids started off at Sockers where we saw him often.
     
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  22. illinisoccer

    illinisoccer Member

    Aug 15, 2005
    Chicago, IL
    He did coach. I had a game against.
     
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  23. soccerdad84

    soccerdad84 New Member

    Feb 18, 2024
    chicago
    His daughter is on the FCU 2011 GA team.
     
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