Changing Landscapes - Chicagoland

Discussion in 'Youth & HS Soccer' started by VolklP19, Dec 28, 2016.

  1. Dirtycleats

    Dirtycleats New Member

    United States
    Apr 18, 2024
    Looks like a bit of shuffling the conferences in GA. I see that it’s Aspire but I had not seen an announcement for Wisconsin United. 5 Wisconsin teams would be beyond over saturation. Did GA add them, or are they just in Aspire.
     

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  2. Dirtycleats

    Dirtycleats New Member

    United States
    Apr 18, 2024

    I don’t see GA’s post on Instagram anymore and Wisconsin United has nothing either so maybe they accidentally leaked it by posting the conferences and now hope no one noticed.
     
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  3. Milquetoast

    Milquetoast Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Sep 7, 2024
    Could happen but people would have said the same about the 2008 Eclipse Girls who I believe were national finalists about 4 years ago. This year they were not even .500 AND lost convincingly to Raptors (another sub .500 team), despite having several P4 commits + a couple mid-majors. I am NOT disparaging or denying their talent, but a lot can change in a few years, girls who were dominant at 13 may have the talent gap narrow considerably on them by the age of 17.
     
  4. FootingTheBill

    FootingTheBill New Member

    Feb 20, 2025
    United States
    FCU has done some heavy recruiting for the 2013s. Final tryouts were this weekend, and there were still tons of bags from solid clubs.
     
  5. ILBlues

    ILBlues Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Sep 26, 2024
    And it looks like Solar has a top 10 team in every age group. Now that is an elite club.
     
  6. FootingTheBill

    FootingTheBill New Member

    Feb 20, 2025
    United States
    Their announcement is on GA’s Instagram post from April 9th for their Aspire badge. I haven’t seen anything for a GA one.
     
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  7. RandomSoccerFan

    United States
    Sep 11, 2022
    You're not wrong! You have to go down to the 2012G's or younger to find a top team out of the top 10 nationally at Solar. Yes, they have many teams - but it's still not something that even Surf or Koge can claim at the moment.

    girls clubs.jpg
     
  8. ILBlues

    ILBlues Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Sep 26, 2024

    So, as you go through
    You are spot on.

    While I dont have the specifics, there is certainly a perception that Eclipse (and FCU to a degree) have a reputation as a talent aggregator and not a developer over the last several years. They recruit early maturing girls who were developed at other clubs vs developing their own through their youth ranks.

    Now, the question is can they continue to develop those girls or do other clubs start catching up as the Eclipse girls revert to the mean maturity wise. Both the 2007 and 2008 Eclipse teams were ranked very high in age groups at younger ages but did not retain those rankings at the older ages. Right now FCU/Inter are well ahead of the 07s and Galaxy has a stranglehold on the 08 group.
     
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  9. WI Soccer Dad

    WI Soccer Dad Member

    May 2, 2022
    This is the latest break down I saw on cities.



     
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  10. ILBlues

    ILBlues Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Sep 26, 2024
    It’s almost like it is conducive to be able to play outside in good weather 12 months a year. I wouldnt know anything about that

    I wish ImYouthSoccer would show the data in a few different ways. I think there is an 80/20 rule in place. Meaning 80% of D1s come from the top ~20% of clubs.
     
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  11. WI Soccer Dad

    WI Soccer Dad Member

    May 2, 2022


    This is from April 16th. There has been a bunch new in that span.
    The inside the link, it has the breakdown by clubs.
     
  12. Dirtycleats

    Dirtycleats New Member

    United States
    Apr 18, 2024
    There are anomalies. Indy, Kansas City, St. Louis and frankly even Milwaukee are having decent recruiting numbers for their size. I would have thought that Miami, Orlando, Austin, Las Vegas, Portland, etc.. would have been much higher.
     
  13. WI Soccer Dad

    WI Soccer Dad Member

    May 2, 2022
    Slightly disagree here. K.C. and St Louis are two major soccer hotbeds. The Indy Premiere class was very very good, so that threw Indy's numbers up.

    Without going on about Milwaukee (don't wanna get yelled again)... Those numbers are about right. This data is for '26s. The class of '25 was just a bit bigger because Wave had a insane class come through.
     
  14. Buddhabuddha

    Buddhabuddha New Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 23, 2024
    I personally enjoy that the north South corridor of Wisconsin, Illinois, Missouri have a pretty well balanced distribution between leagues.
     
  15. Buddhabuddha

    Buddhabuddha New Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 23, 2024
    My understanding is that Wisconsin United got Aspire and not GA.

    Then 56rs got GA but haven't been had an Aspire announcement yet..

    My opinion is WI United got screwed but they should do very very well in the aspire league playing 2nd teams
     
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  16. Buddhabuddha

    Buddhabuddha New Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 23, 2024
    Yeah a few of us saw it, screenshotted it, then it vanished
     
  17. ne plus ultra

    ne plus ultra Member

    Jul 9, 2000
    #8917 ne plus ultra, May 8, 2025
    Last edited: May 8, 2025
    Here are the counts of Illinois players at in-state schools, based on current websites, some last year’s roster and some 2025:
    Northwestern 5
    DePaul 10
    Loyola 9
    U of I 12
    UIC 9
    SIU-C 2
    SIU-E 5
    ISU 7
    EIU 8
    NIU 9
    WIU 4

    That’s 80 D1 women players from Illinois. But there are surely many Illinois women playing in other states. The first few I pulled up were
    IU - 1
    UMich 1
    MSU 1
    St Louis 4
    Ivies 8 (Yale 3 Dartmouth and Brown 2 Cornell 1)
    Mizzou 1
    Wisc 3

    The overall total figure is clearly well over 100. Which may be consistent with 37 this year depending on how high over 100. There are 300 schools I didn’t look at.
     
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  18. Soccer Dad 3434

    Soccer Dad 3434 New Member

    Manchester City
    United States
    Jun 30, 2024
    The numbers i was referencing are from the

    I am youth soccer account on X and instagram. There are several posts in this chat referencing this source. A couple just above the post here. If the data is incorrect then apologies.
     
  19. ne plus ultra

    ne plus ultra Member

    Jul 9, 2000
    I’m not saying you’re incorrect. My numbers are rostered players, with four recruiting classes that factor in. I do wonder what the D1 total is but def don’t want to go through 350 college rosters.

    There is obviously a proximity factor. Kids may have reasons to accept an Ivy offer but there probably aren’t many on the rosters of directional state universities outside the midwest. So I don’t know how to extrapolate. I looked at three Carolina schools and found nobody from here but wasn’t sure which other NC/SC schools were D1. That’s when I gave up.
     
  20. Soccer Dad 3434

    Soccer Dad 3434 New Member

    Manchester City
    United States
    Jun 30, 2024
    No worries, I was trying to be helpful to and provide the best insight I could provide. You are doing the same thing. You are probably right, the number does seem low, but I this the best data I could find.
     
  21. SDBO

    SDBO Member

    United States
    May 19, 2021
    From my understanding ... Madison has to put a 2nd team in GA-A team within two years ... they will not have one this year.
     
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  22. ne plus ultra

    ne plus ultra Member

    Jul 9, 2000
    Your data is pretty interesting too. One thing that's funny as you look at college sites is that half of them show the player's high school and the other half the club. Most show hometown. Princeton didn't have either without clicking into each player profile, now that I think of it. I wasn't wilingso my Ivy sampling is one school low.
     
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  23. Dirtycleats

    Dirtycleats New Member

    United States
    Apr 18, 2024
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  24. Futbold@d_4

    Futbold@d_4 New Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    May 8, 2025
    Question here, besides the Fire what are everyone’s experiences or thoughts with the other area non-affiliated MLS Next academies as far as player development and coaches?
    Sockers, FC United, SC Wave and Bavarians United? I hear that the turnover is high at Wave and FC United at all age groups. And how often do this programs send kids to actual MLS academies for trial? I know Bavarians has shown on their social media kids moving on to Fire do all the other ones as well?
     
  25. SDBO

    SDBO Member

    United States
    May 19, 2021
    I'm not as familiar with Sockers or FC United and but I know Sockers has had a great rep in the past ... as for SC Wave and/or Bavarians ... Bavarians would be the better spot for sure - especially with all the administration and coach turnover (not to mention the player turnover) the past year.
     

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