Change in the air could help MLS

Discussion in 'MLS: General' started by eclipse02, Jun 24, 2010.

  1. eclipse02

    eclipse02 Member

    Sep 20, 2009
    I have been noticing that Soccer Madness seems to be in the air because of the world cup. And People seem to have taken notice. With the Twists and Turns of the US National Team that should be a hollywood movie, Is the US national team winning the minds and the hearts of your average American.
    I think if MLS can make a connection to the USMNT it could hugely benefit MLS. Most of the US players have played in MLS. But back to Subject, I was talking to a friend who has never really liked soccer and is more a Football/Basketball person, and he was telling me that he is starting to get in too soccer and understand on why people love it. He told he still is a Football/Basketball guy but he also told me that soccer is growing on him.

    Does anyone else have any kind of situations like this.

    (forgive my grammer and spelling, kinda of sleepy)
     
  2. SoccerPro843

    SoccerPro843 Member

    Dec 3, 2004
    Austin, Tx
    I've got a couple of friends who are way into baseball, but they're enjoying the tournament as much as I am, and whenever we hang out we're always having good discussions about it. People are becoming more open minded, for sure.
     
  3. eclipse02

    eclipse02 Member

    Sep 20, 2009
    If this Trend continues this the year that US soccer and MLS finally make its breakthrough in the Mainstream Media, Maybe Donavan become the US face of soccer in the USA.

    This Team is team that seems to be showing why USA and soccer go great together, "Never quit never surrender" and "Heart, Soul, Passion" seem to be what is winning average sportsfans. This Team might win the heart and soul of the USA.
     
  4. Scott e Dio93

    Scott e Dio93 New Member

    Jul 1, 2006
    Montevideo, URU
    Soccer is huge in USA, most international leagues make millions in the USA. But MLS isn't up standards most soccer snobs, especially with MLS teams doing poorly in CONCACAF ( bad marketing for MLS ), not enough international stars, cheapo owners ruling over owners who want spend on their teams, poor refs quality etc...

    I do think this season has best young Americans, rookies and other young internationals in MLS history. But these players are victims of MLS screw-up from past, for general public to see.
     
  5. Calexico77

    Calexico77 Member

    Sep 19, 2003
    Mid-City LA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've got. . oh. . .I'd say 20 friends who have asked to get them Galaxy tickets for games in July. The World Cup dove-tailing into the 2nd-half of the MLS season is going to do wonders.

    Also, and this can't be stressed enough - this isn't 2002 and it isn't 2006.

    I've known so many people that once they go to a Galaxy game, they stay interested. Once they get it - they really get it.

    Now, if a New Yorker or a NJ'er decide to take in a Red Bulls game, the experience is fantastic, as opposed to Cavernous. Fans in Philadelphia and Seattle have a place to go, with great stadiums and great fan bases.

    It's gonna be a lot of fun.
     
  6. LordRobin

    LordRobin Member+

    Sep 1, 2006
    Akron, OH
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's true that MLS has a golden opportunity here. But MLS really needs to grab the bull by the horns. The opportunity is here but it could be fleeting. All MLS teams should go on an aggressive promotional push immediately following the Cup. Cut prices for a game or two, get those stadiums full.

    Also, we need to remind ourselves not to be disappointed if MLS attendance only increases by 10% or so. I doubt World Cup fever is going to translate into sold-out MLS stadia from coast to coast.

    ------RM
     
  7. goldy21

    goldy21 Member

    Apr 10, 2007
    I've been giving non-stop lessons for the last two weeks on the qualifying process, rules, Champions/Europa League, etc. It's actually great to spread the gospel considering I became a fan only 5 years ago.

    Now my friends are trying to pick their favorite club team, so I referred them to the Bill Simmons article where he explained his rationale in finally settling on Spurs.
     
  8. eclipse02

    eclipse02 Member

    Sep 20, 2009
    Any luck pointing them towards MLS
     
  9. krudmonk

    krudmonk Member+

    Mar 7, 2007
    S.J. Sonora
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    We need to reel back in our own national team....
     
  10. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you're referring to keeping them MLS that's not possible and stupid. Players at that level are going to want to go to Europe 90% of the time. Not because of the money, but because its Europe. That's where the best competition is.

    Even if we could keep them here for the good of the Nats we shouldn't. If we want the U.S. to get better they have to play every day against the best.
     
  11. krudmonk

    krudmonk Member+

    Mar 7, 2007
    S.J. Sonora
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Yes, but:

    1. Europe is not uniform in quality.

    2. Riding the bench is not valuable experience.
     
  12. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I saw more bad referees in the WC than MLS. It is easy to spent other people's money, it's grass root movement, the league gets better TV deal and than they can spend on better players. It takes time to build to the league to level of which you're have in mind.
    On CCL , they should take the games seriously, it sure does leave a bad impression.
     
  13. Flex Buffchest

    Jan 25, 2010
    Orange County, California
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Our best player on the team has played most of his career in MLS and has done just fine. I'm talking, of course, about Landon Donovan. He is the United States best player and has played most of his soccer for the San Jose Earthquakes and Los Angeles Galaxy in MLS. Sitting on the bench in Europe, or in Jozy's case, being relegated isn't the best scenario. Europe isn't always the best solution.
     
  14. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And a grand total of two other players on the team currently play in MLS. Donovan is the "exception that proves the rule". And even he has hinted about making the jump back to Everton.

    Do you really think you could pry Tim Howard out of a starting role at Everton to come back to NY? Dempsey from Fulham to NE? Gooch from AC Milan to DC United? Even lower down the roster, players like Edu and Hahnemann spent their time in MLS and moved on to better teams.

    Some players (like Altidore and Adu for example) need to make better decisions when they make that jump. Starting in the Netherlands or France is better than riding the pine in Spain or Germany. I'd much rather have Altidore in a relegation battle than in NY though. There's pressure in a relegation battle unlike what you face in MLS. We are decades away from MLS being a true competitor for most of the best American players though, and trying to keep the best Americans here for the good of the league hurts our national team in the long run.
     
  15. Flex Buffchest

    Jan 25, 2010
    Orange County, California
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who says they have to go back to their original teams? I'm not even saying they should come back. My response is that sending our players over to Europe doesn't necessarily mean that will help our USMNT. My point being, our best player has been playing in MLS, even right before he left for the World Cup.
     
  16. eclipse02

    eclipse02 Member

    Sep 20, 2009
    There more likely to do like McBride and come back at the twilight of there careers.
     
  17. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    True, but the original post I responded to talked about "reeling back" our National team. That's not going to happen, nor should it.

    And while our best player has been playing in MLS, what about players 2-10?
     
  18. 760Epicenter

    760Epicenter Member

    Apr 15, 2008
    Level 1
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    the point of MLS teams is to give that jumpstart for a player. it reminds me of that Nike advert about the Dutch guy playing for Arsenal and working his way up to the national team, all from the first person perspective.

    MLS needs to be that beginning league. a chance for players to give professional soccer a chance. can you imagine where LD, Howard, Altidore, Gooch, wouldve ended up without MLS there?

    im liking the USA's chances in the world cup. but first there is NOTHING else but Ghana in the way. first them.

    i think what will help MLS IMMENSELY is watching an MLS side win the CONCACAF Champions League and Club World Cup. if not that then at least always staying in contention for it. THAT will help the club level interest go up.
     
  19. Flex Buffchest

    Jan 25, 2010
    Orange County, California
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not disputing that. I agree with you. But who's to say that Jozy is as good as he is because of Hull and not New York. He hasn't really done much at Hull. Who knows what would've happened if those players stayed in MLS. I'm not saying MLS is as equally talented as the top European leagues. I'm just saying that Europe isn't always the answer to a better National Team. They may have a better chance in Europe, or ride the bench and not do anything. I'd much rather see Donovan play a full 90 here in LA than come in on the 70th minute over at Everton.
     
  20. chimultrufio

    chimultrufio New Member

    Sep 2, 2007
    Los Angeles
    i really think the U.S can make it all the way to the semi-finals, Ghana and Uruguay/South Korea are beatable...this would be great for soccer here in the states and for the MLS...as we already know soccer is very popular in the U.S it just sucks to see the english speaking media ignore it ( not the case for the U.S Spanish speaking media)

    it also sucks to see so many hardcore soccer fans in the U.S just totally ignore or dismiss the MLS, a piece of advice: quit being so snobbish and go support your local team, its great that u choose to support ur mexican or euro team from your television but c'mon the MLS needs you! embrace it and maybe it will grow and at an even quicker pace, the more we put into it the bigger and better it will become :)
     
  21. eclipse02

    eclipse02 Member

    Sep 20, 2009
    Anyone who ignores their demostic league is not a hardcore soccer fan. They are just bandwagon people.
     
  22. Flex Buffchest

    Jan 25, 2010
    Orange County, California
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sadly, we have a lot of those here. Not even giving MLS a chance is just sad.
     
  23. eclipse02

    eclipse02 Member

    Sep 20, 2009
    Sad but true, damn bandwagon people.
     
  24. chimultrufio

    chimultrufio New Member

    Sep 2, 2007
    Los Angeles
    i wouldnt necessarily call them bandwagon people, more like fair weather fans..

    but those are the mild soccer fans aka beckham fans not LA Galaxy fans

    its the hardcore soccer fans that piss me off, here in Los Angeles theres thousands of harcore soccer fans that fully support Chivas Guadalajara, America, Barcelona, Boca Juniors etc but they refuse to give the MLS a chance...and yeah many of those fans are immigrants who understandably root for their homeland team but many are american born and simply ignore the MLS while they are okay with supporting the Lakers/Dodgers/USC football etc..i have several friends who do exactly this
     
  25. eclipse02

    eclipse02 Member

    Sep 20, 2009
    you would think that the Galaxy would have easier time gaining fanfare with Donavan, Ronalindo (coming in rumor), Beckham, Buddle, Gonzales, and Ricketts, plus having a history with Camposs, Lalas, and Jones, plus the truphies and winning tradition, it would be alot easier gain fans.
     

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