Champions League -- Second Phase Draw (Live) and Follow Up Discussion

uefa.com says I can follow it live but their links lead me to the same BS again and again...

 

I hope we get Valencia away first. By the time we travel to Arsenal and Roma I should have enough dough to make the trip

 

26 nov Valencia AJAX
10 dec AJAX roma
18 feb AJAX- Arsenal
25 feb Arsenal- AJAX
11 maart AJAX valencia
18 maart roma - AJAX

Don't know about the rest though.

 

Wow. Now I'm almost wishing they weren't going to get rid of this phase. This is going to be very, very intersting...

I have a feeling that Barcelona and Depor won't get out of it alive, but I don't know enough to make more predictions.

 

.Pretty good group for Madrid, which they should come out of if they regain their form in time

.I think Depor's chances are still pretty good, especially now that Valeron will be returning to the team

.Damn, the only way the draw could have been worse for Ajax was if Roma was replaced by AC Milan

 

again...ManUre gets the easiest draw...

I'll be going to London and Rome to see the Roma and Arsensal matches vs Ajax.

Real better play 1000 times better than they did in the first stage if they hope to advance again. They've looked like crap thusfar.

 

Ajax is able to beat Roma home and away. But if they will.... I doubt it.
Same goes for Arsenal but I guess that depends on their form mostly.
Valencia? I don't think so.

But this is a great learning experience for our players and ofcourse some fantastic matches and trips so I don't think anyone's complaining in A'dam. I expect nothing, but there's always hope.

 

Really, this are four superb groups. The TV stations, who now are complaining about having too many games and less TV ratings because of that, will complain next year after the knockout stage of the last 16. Cause this time we'll have almost all games very interesting and cause giant TV ratings - maybe except Moscow and Basel with all due respect for their performances - and next year the knockout stage delivers some pretty average duels (face it, the top teams will be excluded from meeting each other that early) and the good ratings won't start before the quarter finals.

 

Yeah well. I don't know exactly how they're going to do it next year but I think after the group phase we should get a regular draw with no limitations of any kind. Then I'll be happy.

 

Question for those who have been around the CL longer than I have...

I know this is the first time that Lok Moscow made the 2nd Group Phase. It seems to me that it's going to be pretty tough to go play in Moscow in November and February. Have other clubs playing in such hostile winter weather made it to the second round before? Dynamo Kiev or Spartak Moscow or any teams from the Scandanavian countries?

If so, do they generally have a VERY strong advantage over their opponents. I would guess that Dortmund would be at least somewhat used to winter weather, but what can you expect from Milan when they travel to Moscow in February? or from Madrid in March -- it could still be nasty in Moscow then too.

 

Seems likely that it'll be AC Milan vs Real Madrid will be the next ESPN game. Nice.

 

I don't remember any of those teams making it into the second round, but I don't follow CL if Ajax doesn't play in it so I might be wrong here.

 

Dinamo Kiev had a good run some years ago, when Shevchenko was still playing for them.

 

Dynamo Kiev did well a few years ago making it to the semi final. Yes, the harsh conditions do make a difference as does the rock solid playing surface. Watch out for pony Italian boys wearing gloves!!

 

The groups look good don't they. With a Spanish, Italian and German or English Team in each group there will be lots of great games. No club is assured of qualifying, not even Madrid. If anything, group B is the hardest only because Ajax are the best team from the fourth seeded pot.

I can't see any team getting more than 10 points. 2 home wins and 2 away draws should be enough to get through.

 

I KNEW Manure was going to get Basel...nothing changes with UEFA...watch as the scum draw the others but win the 2 against the swiss cheese to move on.

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