PBP: Champions League, Matchday 1: Chelsea v. Valencia

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  1. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard
    Haha, why is Ross Barkley taking this?

    EDIT: Oh FFS.
     
  2. Kerry Dixon's Boots

    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2006
    77 degrees
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    You absolute spanner. How he was allowed to take it I have no idea.
     
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  3. StamfordBridgeLions

    Chelsea FC
    Sep 4, 2016
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Ross Barkley saves the day . . .oh, no. Not quite.

    Jesus wept.

    Do we have a captain? Do we have a designated PK taker?
     
  4. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Soon as the words "Ross Barkley" and "to take" were mentioned I knew he was going to miss.

    Jesus, I'd trust Kepa over Barkley to take it.
     
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  5. Ninjatend0

    Ninjatend0 Moderator
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    Feb 10, 2007
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    there seemed to be some debate between willian and ross on who was taking it. not a full blown controversy but willian definitely seemed to have some interest there. wonder if we'll here more about that.
     
  6. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Everyone at Chelsea when Barkley missed,

    [​IMG]
     
  7. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard
    Lol, say what you will about Jorginho (and I understand much or the criticism), he takes Italy’s penalties! Willian takes penalties for Brazil occasionally, as I recall.
    But no we give it to Ross Barkley, who’s been on the pitch for 3 minutes. Nice.
     
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  8. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Yes, well, that was sub-optimal, wasn't it.
     
  9. Kerry Dixon's Boots

    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2006
    77 degrees
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Willian had a right to take it by virtue of being the biggest threat. Jorg is also an option as a penalty taker this season. Ross had absolutely no business taking that and frank has to have that stuff sorted out long before the kick off.

    That is the most maddening moment of the season and exposes several issues. Ridiculous.
     
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  10. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    TBH I don't think he was 'given' anything so much as just took it.

    If you recall we had a situation a few years back with drogs and someone else... I forget who.
     
  11. StamfordBridgeLions

    Chelsea FC
    Sep 4, 2016
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Well the manager should say who the designated penalty taker is. AND the Captain should enforce the decision and let the players know who IS taking the penalty.
     
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  12. Kerry Dixon's Boots

    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2006
    77 degrees
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Trying to get a head start on Brexit. Ross clearly in the pro-leave camp. FFS. What a mess.
     
  13. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    I will gladly pay for Barkley's plane ticket and moving expenses if any rumors of him leaving start occurring.
     
  14. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard
    I think part of Barkley’s problem is that he has always believed some of his own hype.
    I’m not as angry about this as you are, but Frank’s inexperience is clearly a problem, as some of us expected it to be.
     
  15. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard
    Lampard! But Lampard told Drogba to ******** off and took it himself. Last game of the season the year we won the title under Carlo - Drogba was going for the golden boot.
     
  16. Blueallthru

    Blueallthru Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    May 15, 2012
    The Interwebz
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    This isn't about the missed pen, but if Ross is the answer to the question, we're asking the wrong question.

    To me, Pedro was poor and bringing on Giroud for an aerial threat just doesn't make that much sense especially when our best moves where when we were direct.

    Mount has great movement and while he isn't perfect he adds that goal threat that neither Jorginho and Kovacic do. Losing him hurts.

    On the pen, GTFO with that Ross. Two proven penalty takers and a sub takes it.....
     
  17. Blueallthru

    Blueallthru Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    May 15, 2012
    The Interwebz
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Ballack I believe. That might have been a free kick though.
     
  18. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    That's actually a good point. he should have replaced Pedro with either Ross or Puli* because he was contributing almost nothing except, on occasion, losing the ball or running into blind alleys.


    * Well... puli, obviously as it turned out.
     
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  19. Kerry Dixon's Boots

    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2006
    77 degrees
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I tend not to get too upset over things that happen during the flow of the game but stuff like that presses my buttons.

    It did before when kepa refused to be subbed out. There should be no ambiguity on things like this.

    I hope it is inexperience. The alternative is that frank (a players gaffer) has opted to let the players sort it out themselves which would concern me more as it's not a tactic I like for obvious reasons.

    A season of growth it is and still quite a lot to learn for many parties. The awful distribution from several players didnt help today.
     
  20. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard
    Don't know about that, I'm in the pro-Ross-leave camp. :)
     
  21. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Really? Lamps? Was that the one where Micheal Essien was pulling his shirt over his head and laughing in embarrassment :D

    Good days :)

    Well, better than today, anyway :(
     
  22. Blueallthru

    Blueallthru Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    May 15, 2012
    The Interwebz
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Pedro was bad. Did his usual runs towards our keeper.
     
  23. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard
    That is more of an English thing to do, and what you might expect a "player manager" to do - another reason I wasn't that high on the idea of hiring Frank. That it leads to Ross Barkley taking the penalty is the reason that it's a bad idea. The gall to decide that you, Ross Barkley, are going to take the penalty over a player who starts for Brazil is quite impressive, if it weren't such a good encapsulation of Ross Barkley because he missed it.
    Between the substitutions, the decision to take off Zouma (despite comfortably controlling the game) for Giroud to play a formation we've not yet used in a game (which left us with the Kovacic and Jorginho pivot we all know and love) and bringing on Barkley, this was a particularly poor Frank performance.
     
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  24. Wrath

    Wrath Member+

    May 4, 2007
    New York
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Yeah it was Lamps. Drogba wanted it ensure he won the golden boot. But the game was hanging in balance so Lampard took it. Drogba took the one after it so worked out well for everyone.
     
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  25. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Just talking about the PK and the guy is saying that the delay in getting it would have played a part in the confidence of the guy taking it and that would be the case REGARDLESS of who it was.

    So it was a ridiculous decision by the guy.

    But, obviously, having said all that... if he knocks it in, we're not having this discussion.
     

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