Necaxa 2 LA Galaxy 1 FT 6:2 Necaxa advance ---- Colombus Crew 2 Morelia 0 FT 6:2 Morelia advance ---- Toluca 2 Municipal 1 FT 4:2 Toluca advance ---- America 4 Alajuelense 0 FT America leads 4:0 Some people on this board need to eat some serious crow and give the Mexican league the respect it deserves.
Only because the Galaxy kept Dallas out of the competition PS: On Concacaf's website they refer to the tournament as the CONCACAF Champions Cup. It seems they are finally dropping the moronic Football Confederation alternate...
So how many more years was US Soccer set back tonight? Are we back to 1975 yet? Because I hear Pele might be making a comeback, but I like Tampa Bay to win it all.
I don't like this, it almost killed the season for me. Next year we need at least one team in the last four. I'd like to think this league is close to the MFL. I hope MLS won't take this lightly cause this kind of thing can cause some fans not to follow the league. I just don't know if they will or can do somthing about this $$$$$$$$$.
Various Styles is RIGHT! Give PROPS to the MFL for kicking our GRINGO BUTTS! We have to crawl before we can walk, it probably set us back to 1990 for sure....
In light of the victories of Mexican teams over MLS ones, I'd like to make a few points: 1. USA 2:0 MEX 2. The US national team beat Mexico 2-0 in the 2002 world cup round of sixteen. and there was one more thing... what was it.. oh right: 3. US 2, Mexico 0 -- WC 2002.
Except not all of those players were from MLS...... How come no one has mentioned that we're basically two games into our season while Mexican clubs are already much closer to peak form?
-------------------------------------------------- (3. US 2, Mexico 0 -- WC 2002.) -------------------------------------------------- We are talking about MLS not USNT. ------------------------------------------------- (How come no one has mentioned that we're basically two games into our season while Mexican clubs are already much closer to peak form?) ------------------------------------------------- Good point, but it still bothers me we lost 6-2 and 6-2.
This is an example of why it is important to the US to have a strong Mexican league and national team. Anytime that we get too comfortable, Mexico will always be there, more than happy to pull us back to reality. Personally, I feel that we perform the same role for Mexico. Both Leagues and both national teams will continue to get stronger and stronger because they will be pushed into doing so by each other. True excellence in any sport cannot take place without strong competition. The results are very dissappointing in the short term, but probably not such a terrible thing in the long term.
I did, in the other thread. What I'm curious about is if this set us back 10 years, how many years did we gain back in 2000 when the Galaxy won the CCC? And how many years did we gain in 1998 when DC United won the CCC? And did we gain any months in 1997 when the Galaxy lost in the final and DC made it to the semifinals? Did we gain any months in 1999 when DC and the Fire both made the semis? Somebody call Gregor, his calendar is all messed up now. (Standardized grammer)
Apparently with all the diving that took place by Morelia in its game with the Crew, one had to wonder whether Ruiz was in Columbus rather than with LA last night.
The only people who care about this competition are BigSoccer diehards. Most reporters write the games off as exhibitions. These results don't set the league or the sport back, Chicken Littles (or is that Chickens Little?) -- all they mean is that LA's and Columbus' opponents played better soccer for two games in early 2003.
Amendment to previous post: the only native-born Americans who care about this competition are BigSoccer diehards, and let's face it. There just aren't that many BigSoccer diehards...
Yeah, we're not whiney Mexicans. We got our buts kicked and lets admit it. No disadvantage could salvage those scorelines.
Right on...And what is there to play for? There is no prize money, no TV money, no larger cup qualification, just another meaningless game. I'm glad the MLS teams don't have to play these mid week games the rest of the season. Focus on the competitions that mean something.
It may not set back American soccer, but it certainly doesn't propel it forward. Either way, as Sigi Schmidt put it, it's embarassing if you're a proponent of MLS. But life goes on! Bring on Week 3!!
MLS won't take the Champion's Cup seriously until the players are guaranteed incentives for winning. That won't happen until every team in the league is out of the red (which likely won't be for a while.) I hope that we can see better results next year though, and it's good to see that Columbus at least tried to salvage some dignity.
At this moment, I believe MLS plays lip service towards this competition. Its used to develop depth in our teams and to get a look at players who don't normally play during the regular MLS season. Among the problems everyone else has mentioned (early in the season, officials, etc.), MLS teams are bad on the road. Until our coaches and players figure out how to tie or lose on the road (i.e. by few goals), we won't catch up to the competition. Based on some of things that I have read, it appears our coaches were out-coached... Lastly, I agree with the comments on having a strong MFL. For several years, I had stopped watching MFL games because the game were soooooooooooo slow. However, I have watched some games this year and the play is much more direct and fun to watch.
I am pretty upset and worried about the Galaxy/Crew losses. Without reading too much into the results, I'm thinking a few of the MLS players need to be more active in the offseason.