Cesare Prandelli's Italy : the 60 minute team

Discussion in 'Italy: National Teams' started by indestructible, Jun 15, 2012.

  1. indestructible

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    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
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    "..Prandelli also dismissed suggestions his team lacked character and instead countered that fitness was to blame for their second-half performance.
    'I don't think we lack character in any way shape or form. I'm not entirely convinced by this,' said Prandelli.
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    But we do struggle, there is a drop in our level at the 60th minute. In terms of the two games, at that stage of the game we lack fresh legs.
     
  2. indestructible

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  3. indestructible

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    I know we only had 1 friendly leading up to the tournament, but the players should have had 90 minutes in them yesterday. What are other countries doing in their training that we are not? This team goes limp around the 60th minute!!
     
  4. Luca03

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    Jun 11, 2006
    Toronto,Canada
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    The only player that had 90 minutes in him, Prandelli subbed out (Balotelli).
    For me that was the crucial part of the game. People can say whatever that want about Di Natale and how good he is blah blah blah...im sick of it. Pirlo served him on a platter vs Spain and he had a good finish but after that he barely touched a ball. And against Croatia when Prandelli subbed out Balotelli off for `The Master` Di Natale, I think the only time I saw him on my screen was when he was offside.
     
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  5. indestructible

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    A STRIKER is only as good as his service. If he doesn't get the ball, he doesn't score
     
  6. Matteo4Azzurri

    Sep 2, 2006
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    Juventus FC
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    Italy
    Balo showed no signs of fatigue... so I'm not sure where Prandelli can use that as an excuse in the particular aspect. That was a tactical error on his part.
     
  7. Matteo4Azzurri

    Sep 2, 2006
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    Juventus FC
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    Italy
    Maggio could have had at least one goal if he hadn't run offsides twice.
     
  8. Luca03

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    Jun 11, 2006
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    Well he dosent make any effort to get the ball either.
    Cassano and Balotelli hardly get that much service either.
     
  9. indestructible

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    Have you ever watched Udinese play? Do you see how Di Natale is utilized?

    I don't understand what people expect from ADN. It's like you're all disappointed he doesn't run back and dribble past 5 players and score. That's not his game.
     
  10. Falc

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    Jul 29, 2006
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    The two players who have shown signs of fatigue have been Cassano and Motta. Cassano, it makes perfect sense. He just came back to playing at the end of the season and it is not as if Milan played him full time on his return. Considering his history of fitness, it is unreasonable to expect him to have 90 minutes in him.

    As for Motta, let's not forget that he is Brazilian. Brazilians love the game and love to play it. They are not known for their love of physical fitness. How many Brazilian starts have faded in their late 20's, early 30's? Motta played in France the second half of the season. Maybe the play is not as demanding as it is in Serie A. Now he is a hard worker and has given it his all on the pitch. But he does not have the legs in him in the last 30 minutes. And against Croatia, he did take a knock on the head.

    Other than those two, fitness has not been a big issue of the other players.
     
  11. Matteo4Azzurri

    Sep 2, 2006
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    Juventus FC
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    Italy
    Prandelli says he expects to make up to 4 changes in the starting roster on Monday, but assures DDR keeps his position - formation stays the same.

    Also hints that Di Natale plays best when he comes in late in the game.

    He said some of the decision process for the starting lineup will be based off of a fitness test tomorrow I believe. I'm crossing my fingers we see Giovinco and Balo start the next game. Cassano needs to recover and should only be used as a sub against Ireland, if used at all.
     
  12. Luca03

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    Jun 11, 2006
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    I`ve seen Udinese before and the team is built around him.
     
  13. indestructible

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    It's more than Cassano and Motta Marchisio faded as well. He wasn't the same player in the second half. Both Maggio and Giaccherini became increasingly sloppy as the game went on too.
     
  14. Falc

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    Jul 29, 2006
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    I can tell you as a Juventino that Marchisio is one of the fittest, if not the fittest, players on the Azzurri. He runs on both ends. But to play our style of ball control, when a player or two get gassed, it makes more work for the others.
     
  15. DaveyGorgeous

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    Jul 6, 2006
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    Juventus FC
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    I don't know if Maggio is showing "signs of fatigue" but he is not the usual little engine bombing down the right flank. So, whether it's fatigue or otherwise, Maggio looks different.
     
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  16. Matteo4Azzurri

    Sep 2, 2006
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    Never understood why Marchisio gets so much crap on here. The kid is a workhorse.
     
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  17. indestructible

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    Whatever the case, his form mirrored italy's. First half good, second half ..flat
     
  18. Matteo4Azzurri

    Sep 2, 2006
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    Juventus FC
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    Italy
    IMO the game against Russia killed any confidence he had and hasn't bounced back.
     
  19. Matteo4Azzurri

    Sep 2, 2006
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    Juventus FC
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    Italy
    That was team wide... not just Claudio (Balo the exception... he wasn't slowing down).
     
  20. Cyclonis

    Cyclonis Forza Juve

    Jul 12, 2007
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    Italy
    Doping? :confused:
     
  21. indestructible

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    It wouldn't surprise me

    With advanced designer roids, atheltes are taking advantage. Pacman, Lance Armstrong.... Mandzukic?

     
  22. el napulitan

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    Sep 28, 2008
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    they're all cheatin bastards, i personally dont care if they dope, its the lame ass excuses they use when they get caught, oh it was something in the water, oh it must have been in a supp, no you're just a cheat, now mma fighters are getting prescribed trt in their 30's which is a load of bull, they're just covering up their cheating ways,

    any way our fitness is worryingly poor
     
  23. DaveyGorgeous

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    Jul 6, 2006
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    Juventus FC
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    And, this is another reason why DDR needs to be pushed out of the backline and into the midfield. Start four at the back, and those three in the midfield.

    I was hesitant when Conte began employing the 3-man backline at Juventus and it took a good few months for issues and communication between the players as far as assignments to be sorted out and the team to come full circle. Prandelli has never asked his Azzurri to play this before the tournament and besides the Juve and Napoli players on the team, most others are not used to this system either. If this is what Prandelli wanted, it should've been implemented months ago. I feel we have to revert to what is more natural.
     
  24. Daei_10

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    Aug 22, 2007
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    i was gonna post in the fire prandelli thread but its closed.......soooooooooo who wants him fired now??
     
  25. indestructible

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    So far every time I criticized Prandelli and his formations they've won.

    So i'm not going to stop
     
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