Celtic Boavista (R)

Discussion in 'FC Dallas' started by Scipio Gothicus, Apr 24, 2003.

  1. Scipio Gothicus

    Aug 6, 2001
    Cabo San Lucas
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I previously attempted a humorous post on this board and was surprised to see many angry Portugal (3-2 in Korea, if you have forgotten) fans take it seriously. To remind you, I merely mentioned that listening to my fellow Celtic fans at the Dubliner must have been like my fellow Burn fans listening to me.

    And I read about how Celitc was finished.

    Well, the Bhoys are nearly finished. Just one more round. I suppose Boavista actaully fancied they could hold the Hoops scoreless.

    Boavista 0-1 Celtic; Celtic advances 2-1 on aggregate.
     
  2. ArsenalTexan3

    ArsenalTexan3 Member

    Arsenal
    Sep 24, 2002
    Jakarta
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Sweet. Glad to see Celtic through. Now win or lose, do they qualify straight to the group stage in the Champions league?
     
  3. um_chili

    um_chili Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    Losanjealous
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dude--

    You got flamed b/c you displayed ridiculous ignorance/arrogance about Portuguese football. Hell, you couldn't even spell "Boavista" right. So forgive us if we pointed out a few errors.

    And I don't recall anyone saying that Celtic was finished, only that Boa had a chance and that it would be a good match -- which it was. Even play, both sides with some opportunities, Celtic doing the better job of finishing theirs. Celtic deserved their victory, but it was far from the walkover many of their fans predicted.

    It should be a great final. I'd actually be pulling for Celtic if it was against almost any other team but can't say I'll be doing that here.
     
  4. um_chili

    um_chili Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    Losanjealous
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh, and no CL berth to UEFA cup finallists or even winners, though UC winner is guaranteed a UC spot next year assuming they 're not in europe via other means.
     
  5. jumhed

    jumhed Member+

    Mar 26, 2001
    London
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Boavista deserved to go out. They were simply awful, diving, cheating and timewasting non-stop. Celtic were unimaginative and predictable, but at least they tried to win.

    Saying that, Chris Sutton wouldn't look out of place in the Boavista side. His constant falling over was totally lame. And that Ref was diabolical. The whistle never left his mouth.

    Well done Celtic. I'm not so sure they'll beat Porto.
     
  6. ArsenalTexan3

    ArsenalTexan3 Member

    Arsenal
    Sep 24, 2002
    Jakarta
    Club:
    Arsenal FC

    Odd because I thought I remember last years UC finalists, Feyenoord and I believe it was a German side(or was it Rosenborg from Norway?) being allowed into the CL.
     
  7. um_chili

    um_chili Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    Losanjealous
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No comment to jumhed's remarks. Learn how to win with a shred of dignity.

    As for last year, the German team that lost in the final was Dortmund; they qualified for the CL as runnersup in the Bundesliga. Feyenoord won but qualified for Europe as third-placed team in Holland.

    http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/qual2002.html

    Not uncommon for UEFA cup finalists to qualify for europe via other means; typically they are having a pretty good year in their domestic league (eg both finalists this year, who will qualify for CL based on domestic performance).
     
  8. ArsenalTexan3

    ArsenalTexan3 Member

    Arsenal
    Sep 24, 2002
    Jakarta
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Didn't realize the Dutch league had 3 CL qualifying slots. Makes sense then. Still why don't the winners of the UC get a CL spot? After all they won the Cup.
     
  9. Parkhead_Faithful

    Parkhead_Faithful New Member

    Dec 19, 2001
    Glasgow,Scotland
    I dont think hes a celtic supporter mate and no offence if you are a boavista supporter as I have just got back from having a great time with youre mob but everything he said was right, they were the most negative side I have ever seen celtic play in europe and it was a victory for football when that ball hit the back of the net last night.
    not to mention all of the diving, feigning of injury, timewasting and downright mankyness from boavista.
     
  10. jumhed

    jumhed Member+

    Mar 26, 2001
    London
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Exactly. My being English immediately prejudices me (or it should) against Celtic and plumps me firmly on the Rangers side of things. I just tell it like I see it. Boavista were pants.

    It was like watching a team managed by George Graham they were so negative. As I said, Celtic were the only team who tried to win it. Until Celtic scored Boavista were content to spoil the game. I only wish Celtic had scored in the first 5 minutes, then I wouldn't have wasted 80 minutes of my life watching that dross. Next time Boavista are on I'll know to switch off.

    From down here Celtic look like a team stuffed with EPL rejects (here we go....), but Martin O'Neil must surely be one of the greatest managers of all time. He could motivate a cemetary.
     
  11. Scipio Gothicus

    Aug 6, 2001
    Cabo San Lucas
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was flamed? Sorry, didn't notice.

    Chili, you should have read some of my other posts, and then you would have understood why I used several different spellings of the Bhoys opposition that night, none of which were Boavista. Actaully, I had been researching them sinc ethe draw, and it was the draw I wanted for Celtic. So I was fairly clear that they were not 50 points from the top of the table, though they might as well be, for they will not be catching Porto this year. They might as well be 10,000 points down.

    Essentailly, Chili, I am sarcastic (especailly on ths board), never check my spelling, and only care about a few teams. These would Celtic, Dallas, Ajax, Forest, and Cim Bom. I am fairly certain none of these teams play in Portugal. I know the big teams in Portugal, and I knew that a mid level team would not beat Celtic.

    I have to agree with Jum and Faithful. Boavista was clearly playing for the 0-0 draw, wasting as much time as they could at every opportunity. Celtic did not adjust well, and Larsson's goal was a make up for an easy one he missed earlier. If Boavista thought that going for the draw was thier best bet, fine, but they should have known that you should use more fluid tactics. Bunker when the other team has the ball, but mix in a few attacks. Sitting down in defense for most of the game almost never works. If Boavista had tried to attack, I doubt the outcome would have been different, but the match would have been more entertaining.

    Celtic deserved to go through.
     
  12. um_chili

    um_chili Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    Losanjealous
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Didn't notice," eh? No way I'm buying that. It makes no sense in light of your starting this thread specifically to retort to the "many angry portugal fans" (your words) who responded to your original thread.

    As for the game itself, I won't dispute whetehr Boa used negative tactics. Having followed Boa through the Cup, though, it would be an aberration -- in all their previous games they faced a deficit going into the second leg and played bright, attacking football against a team that was trying to bunker down and hold on for a 0-0 draw to go through to the next round.

    My point was not about the quality of play in the game, but rather that it's poor to gloat and trash the opposition when you're a supporter of the winning team. Do what you like, there's nothing stopping you from demonstrating a lack of class, but I think it's poor form and don't mind saying so.

    I realize this isn't true of all Celtic supporters. One fellow posted on the Portugal boards giving credit to Boa for what was (in his words) clearly the toughest fight of any of Celtic's prior UEFA cup opponents. That's what I mean by class. I also conceded above that Celtic deserved to win, even though I wanted to see Boa go through. Should be a good final. My money's on Porto.
     
  13. Scipio Gothicus

    Aug 6, 2001
    Cabo San Lucas
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Honest, I did not notice. Of course, I read the posts, but I never thought I was "flamed." Rather, I just noticed you were not a Burn fan, probably had not read any of my other posts, and simply misunderstood my original thread. If you knew me, you would not have missed the intent.

    Boavista did play a bunker style of game. I have not seen them play before these two games. It would seem to make sense that Boavista would attack if they were down after the first leg. Here they had the advantage, used the (disappointing) tactics they though would get the to the final, and lost.

    I didn't gloat, I merely metioned the result, and noted that some people thought Boavista had already won after the first leg. They were wrong, and I don't mind saying so.

    I agree that Boavista gave the Bhoys a better game than I predicted. After rolling over teams like Rovers, Celta Viga, and Liverpool, I thought Celtic would roll. Actaully, it was a very near thing.

    Porto will be difficult. I would bet on Celtic, but it is a winner take all one shot deal at this point. The better team will not win in Seville. The team that plays better will.
     

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