CCLGroup2: Sounders @ Caledonia (P/I/P)

Discussion in 'Seattle Sounders FC' started by Yoshou, Aug 27, 2012.

  1. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who: Seattle Sounders @ Caledonia AIA
    Where: Couva, Trinidad
    When: 5:00 PM, Thursday, August 30
    Watch: FSC
    Listen: ???

    I'm expecting a reserve heavy line-up for this game, particularly on offense. Caledonia isn't a very good team and once we get that first goal, we should see a lot of openings for more goals. On the good news front, Caledonia was able to hold Marathon to a 0-0 draw, so if we pull out a win, we'll be eliminating Caledonia from advancing and will be making life very, very difficult for Marathon. A draw or a loss leaves the door open for Marathon and gives Caledonia hope.
     
  2. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As mentioned earlier, I'm expecting a reserve heavy line-up for this match. Yoshou's Guaranteed to be Wrong Predicted line-up is:

    ------- Ochoa ------------- Martinez ------
    Zakuani ---- Caskey/Alonso ----- Cato
    Burch -------- Ianni/Parke -------- Scott
    ---------------- Gspurning ----------------

    I wouldn't be surprised to see Martinez and Zakuani swapped. I'm also not sure about Caskey at CM, so perhaps this is an option as well:

    ------- Ochoa ------------- Zakuani ------
    Caskey ---- Martinez /Alonso ----- Cato
    Burch -------- Ianni/Parke -------- Scott
    ---------------- Gspurning ----------------
     
  3. Neemtree

    Neemtree Member

    Jan 11, 2003
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Having been at the first game against Caledonia I think either of those lineups is good enough to get full points. Which is good because the flight to T&T is a long one.
     
  4. Ganapper

    Ganapper Member

    Apr 5, 2009
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Considering Marathon and Caledonia had a 0-0 draw, we could be very near sealing up the group with a decent win this week.
     
  5. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Way too soon to count Marathon out. If they are able to win at home against us and Caledonia they put the Sounders in the position of needing a win at home to advance. It's certainly not an easy path for them, but they've only had one match so far.
     
  6. Ciscokid

    Ciscokid Member

    May 3, 2008
    Reno NV now. UGH
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looked at from the other side: If we win the next 2 games, then the home game against Marathon is not needed to advance.

    Now, I'm not sure what all the tiebreakers are for determining seeding in the knockout stage so even if we don't need the home game to advance, there may still be stats to play for.
     
  7. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Technically a win and a draw in our next two games would be enough to lock up a seat in the knockout rounds.

    As far as positioning in the knock out rounds goes, the #1 tiebreaker after points is goal differential. So it behooves the Sounders to run up the score as much as possible.
     
  8. Ganapper

    Ganapper Member

    Apr 5, 2009
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not counting them out, not really counting Caledonia out either to be honest. If they beat us then they are right back in it.
     
  9. gblfxt

    gblfxt Member

    Aug 24, 2009
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think its more not counting out ccl refs than the other teams....
     
  10. Main Man

    Main Man Member

    Jul 22, 2009
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They have excellent aged rum in T&T
     
  11. guelch27

    guelch27 Member

    Apr 7, 2008
    Bremerton
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So is it Wednesday or the 30th?
     
  12. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What are you talking about? It clearly says Thursday, August 30. :)
     
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  13. MintyDude

    MintyDude Member

    Aug 2, 2006
    Seattle/Bellingham
    They may have looked bad when they played here... but going away to Central America is never easy.
     
  14. EAB206BLUES

    EAB206BLUES Member

    Jul 19, 2007
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well Marathon will certainly be tough at home so is any Central American team for that matter of fact. Fortunately for us Caledonia is a Caribbean team not that going there and getting a result will be any easier just wanted to point out the geographical difference. Road matches in the CCL are always tough for various reasons.
     
  15. Ajas

    Ajas Member

    Sep 23, 2009
    3eattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    I like this... a lot. Martinez should be playing withdrawn striker every second of every game that Montero isn't.
     
  16. Sounder

    Sounder Member

    Apr 29, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We need to lock this baby up early. The last CCL game comes smack in-between SJ and PDX if ever there was a time to rest the first 11-15 that would be the time.
     
  17. sportsfan-quakes

    Mar 19, 2005
    San Jose
    Good luck tonight, hope to see Seattle get the win.
     
  18. sportsfan-quakes

    Mar 19, 2005
    San Jose
    Actually, a win and a draw in the next two games is not enough to clinch. Since Marathon still has two matches AFTER the match vs Seattle on Sept 19 (Sept 26 at home vs Caledonia and Oct 24 at Seattle), the only way Seattle can clinch by Sept 19 would be to get wins both at Caledonia tonight and at Marathon on Sept 19. If that happens, Seattle would have 9 points and Marathon could at most get 7 points. If Seattle win and draw their next 2 matches, even if they beat Marathon and draw at Caledonia, that's still not good enough to clinch. Marathon could get 6 points from their final 2 matches and still tie Seattle with 7 points.

    Unfortunately for you guys, the CCL match between the Portland and SJ matches is only your 3rd match, so you can't clinch before that match. In fact, as I noted above, with the way the schedule has Marathon playing two matches after they host Seattle on Sept 19, the Sounders will go into that Sept 19 match without much insight into what kind of a result they need. If you assume Marathon will beat Caledonia when they host them on Sept 26, then Seattle's fate really comes down to how they do against Marathon.

    Sigi is going to have some interesting decisions to make as far as personnel the week that the Sounders play at Portland, at Marathon, and then host San Jose.
     
  19. Ganapper

    Ganapper Member

    Apr 5, 2009
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And outside of this, Even if we clinch with a win tonight and against Marathon, there is seeding for the next round to consider. I'd rather avoid Santos and Monterrey in the first knockout round if at all possible.
     
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  20. asoc

    asoc Member+

    Sep 28, 2007
    Tacoma
    Keep in mind our last game against them was at home and they were in preseason.

    This time we are traveling and they have had that much more time.
     
  21. JoeCelt

    JoeCelt Member+

    Jul 7, 2012
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
  22. MightyMouse

    MightyMouse BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 19, 2003
    Island paradise east of the mainland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Small teams in the CCL... frustrating to watch.
     
  23. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At least you get to watch. I'm out of town and the game isn't up on any iphone friendly sites. :(
     
  24. MightyMouse

    MightyMouse BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 19, 2003
    Island paradise east of the mainland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Trust me, it isn't a game you'd be glued watching, hell I'm playing spider solitaire while listening in case something happens.
     
  25. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah.. The twitter updates from the team have been pretty lame so far.
     

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