CBA negotiations

Maybe this. But, they seem willing to pay more for players now in the Messi/Apple era.

 

Well, the players are definitely paying attention. I've seen a couple of recently-retired names commenting on the lockout, although I don't know how much that is just expressing themselves vs expressing what the active players can't. They know they're next on the block, though, and I don't get the idea that they're particularly happy with how this has gone, at least based on what I've seen in public and private.

 

https://apple.news/AYTpL-6ckSJeHuRUZJasSVw
https://theathletic.com/5313746/2024/03/03/mls-referee-lockout-commentators/

“MLS instructed broadcasters not to 'belabor' referee commentary amid lockout”

It’s an Athletic article so behind paywall.

 

Not the perfect thread to place this, but here is a local referees association leadership fully supporting their referees with their MLS assignments

1764472291826528757 is not a valid tweet id

 

someone in the NTX SRC just burnt a bunch of important bridges

 

Oh boy. Of the things an SRC chooses to tweet...

 

Obviously, pretty callous to post and infuriating to many.

However, this is showing that solidarity within the referee community has its limits and an expiration date and will only go so far.

Refereeing and climbing the referee ladder is an inherently selfish and "every man for himself" enterprise.

It just is. You go to any tournament (youth, Dallas Cup, regionals, Adult Regionals, Development Academy, even the World Cup) and everyone wants everyone to do well. But your number one goal is for you, yourself, to do well. Everything else is really secondary.

That tweet is another example of it. It's not right, but it's just the reality.

Again, we've seen World Cup trios broken up because one member was a weak link and he got replaced so he doesn't drag the whole crew down with him.

CJ Morgante lost his World Cup dream because FIFA/CONCACAF thought he was a weak link and was gonna drag Geiger down.

I'm sure Geiger was devastated for him and pissed off at FIFA/CONCACAF. He could have made the decision to stand in solidarity with CJ and said "if he's not going then I'm not going."

But, if it came down to Morgante and a World Cup what did he choose? The World Cup.

That tweet and the replacement officials taking MLS games is just greater degrees of what Geiger did.

 

I don't even see how this tweet is even selfishly beneficial to whoever made it. As a user said above, they just burnt some important bridges. All for a small shoutout to the debutants.

This is a Hanlon's Razor moment I reckon. Someone who obviously doesn't care very passionately about the lockout wanted to congratulate some people they knew, and didn't realize the negative response they'd receive in doing so.

 

It is just to show you that not EVERYONE in the referee community is with PSRA and cares for their cause.

They simply don't view what PSRA is trying to do applies to them.

They simply view it as not "my fight and not my problem."

This tweet is basically a backhanded shot at PSRA and their messaging. There are referees and people who simply roll their eyes at the messaging being delivered by PSRA.

Go to your local park on Saturday or Sunday and survey your weekend warriors referees.

Of the ones that actually know anything about the lockout, do you think there is a percentage that simply don't care for PSRA's cause or don't have any sympathy for them?

I've asked referees that I've worked with of what they think of the lockout and PSRA's struggle. Some have point blank said "how does Ismail Elfath getting better health care or more business class flights apply to me? Who am I to judge and tell a referee to not take an opportunity?"

The point is while the referee community is united way more than it was in 2014 its still not 100% united on this.

I guarantee you that the longer this lockout drags on the greater chance that some of the people that have initially said no might start to reverse course and change their mind.

 

I saw this on Facebook last night. There was a single comment on the post (that I could see) and it was not kind. Very angry about the disrespect towards the current PSRA members whom regularly donate their time to support and develop referees and the fact that no other referee in NTX has been publicly congratulated on their PRO/MLS debuts. The post is now comment controlled. I'm guessing it turned into a mess overnight.

Edit: Woops, that thread is what I saw on Facebook

 

Except go look at their Facebook page. There are multiple posts congratulating PRO members in the past as recently as 11/23 specifically for Jennifer and the PRO camp just in January, so his counter point that they haven’t been posting that stuff is just incorrect.

Regardless of how they (N TX SRC) feel about the lockout situation it is downright idiotic for an SRC to alienate so many people that mentor and coach referees and collectively have so much knowledge.

They don’t have an SRA or SYRA listed on their website. Is the Chair the SRA? I know N TX has operated that way in the past with the Chair holding both titles.

 

Also, since we’re on the topic of social media, PSRA is pretty pathetic for not being able to accept any heat themselves. They delete every comment on every post. PRO leaves everything up.

 

My point is that there will be a trickle up effect in terms of attitude.

If there are weekend warriors that don't care, then naturally there will be people above their level (regional referees and aspiring national referees and various assignors and administrators right above them).

Inevitably, that line of thinking will reach all the way up to the SRC level.

My point is that no one should be surprised or shocked that there is splintering at the SRC level or even higher.

There are inevitably some people (seemingly somewhat important people) that are just simply turned off by PSRA's actions and commentary these past couple of weeks.

 

Since I don’t think it ever got posted I’ll also mention this. During the picketing in Dallas the PSRA referees didn’t just stay on the street. They went in the hotel and were harassing and mean mugging the replacement referees as they were moving from room to room during their training sessions. I told some of them to just report it to hotel staff and have them trespassed if it was that bad. PSRA refs already thought of that and were staying in the same hotel. Hard to trespass a paying guest unless they really cross a line.

 

The sad part is there are people that think what they are doing is okay and justified.

 

If this is true, please DM me the names of the PSRA members doing this, and I will address those members personally. This is not what we are about and apologies if this did happen.

 

This is definitely not all of them and quite the opposite of some of the interactions between people on opposite sides.

 

sounds like an excellent opportunity for PRO to file another ULP charge, which they undoubtedly would love to tell the public about. until that happens, I'll remain skeptical of this secondhand allegation.

 

You know who was in Dallas and can ask them. I was told they were in the hotel for three days. Would deliberately place themselves around elevators and the meeting rooms, forcing their presence. Glad someone in PSRA agrees that bit was over the line.

 

So you put a pretty serious accusation out there because a friend of a friend told a guy you knew? If you know then you should follow up with Corey. If you don’t, then you shouldn’t gaslight and spread rumors.

this would be incredibly inappropriate if true and based on every story every other person has heard from the picketing events, this didn’t happen. PRO immediately publicized the ULP after an email from Chris penso but they sat on this one? Come on man…

 

Is this confirmation bias or something else