Castrol Index

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  1. Psycho_Derek

    Psycho_Derek Member+

    Nov 18, 2005
    Without cheating, try and guess who is top of the castrol index for the Crew.

    Bonus question, are they in the castrol index top ten?
     
  2. tomwilhelm

    tomwilhelm Member+

    Dec 14, 2005
    Boston, MA, USA
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Guillermo!

    Oh, wait... :(
     
  3. Psycho_Derek

    Psycho_Derek Member+

    Nov 18, 2005
    He is 4th :p
     
  4. Nostradumass

    Nostradumass BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 5, 2007
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  5. HardHatMike

    HardHatMike DOOOOOOOOM!

    Traktor Nebraska
    Aug 31, 2005
    Lincoln, Nebraska
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anyone care to explain what a Castol Index is, other than a motor oil?
     
  6. Psycho_Derek

    Psycho_Derek Member+

    Nov 18, 2005
    http://www.mlssoccer.com/castrol/faq

    Everything you have ever wanted to know is right here.
     
  7. Psycho_Derek

    Psycho_Derek Member+

    Nov 18, 2005
    7th in the Crew, and 152nd overall
     
  8. eboe

    eboe Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 23, 2006
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I love the fact that 2 forwards we jettisoned are in the top 10, and above our highest ranking player. Hell, Kei is THIRD. And Lenhart is 8th.
     
  9. HardHatMike

    HardHatMike DOOOOOOOOM!

    Traktor Nebraska
    Aug 31, 2005
    Lincoln, Nebraska
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd still make the Kei for BC trade every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
     
  10. eboe

    eboe Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 23, 2006
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    By the metric of points-to-minutes, keep an eye on Josh Williams. And Vukovic too. They have a fairly decent points-to-minutes ratio.
     
  11. eboe

    eboe Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 23, 2006
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, if we hadn't given BC away for some sweatsocks and a bag of balls...
     
  12. HardHatMike

    HardHatMike DOOOOOOOOM!

    Traktor Nebraska
    Aug 31, 2005
    Lincoln, Nebraska
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's beside the point. At that time, Kei wasn't what that team needed, BC was. And it worked. What the idiots have done since is irrelevant. Besides, Kamara is on his third team since that trade.
     
  13. eboe

    eboe Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 23, 2006
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Understandable. It helped us at that time, but now, we sure could use Kei up top. Heck, I'm pining for the days of Jason Garey ;)
     
  14. Swellster

    Swellster Member

    Jun 26, 2011
    Dallas
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll guess the Hebrew Hammer or maybe Vargas.
     
  15. Psycho_Derek

    Psycho_Derek Member+

    Nov 18, 2005
    The index does seem to weigh forwards highly, at least in the top ten 8 are forwards, and only 2 defenders.
     
  16. Psycho_Derek

    Psycho_Derek Member+

    Nov 18, 2005
    which?
     
  17. Psycho_Derek

    Psycho_Derek Member+

    Nov 18, 2005
    ok, I will give it to you. Yes Vargas is #9 overall, and #1 in our hearts in the Crew.

    That Ole Man Vargas.
     
  18. Psycho_Derek

    Psycho_Derek Member+

    Nov 18, 2005
    ok, game over. so now what should we talk about?
     
  19. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know! I know! But... I also looked yesterday...
     
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  20. CrewV Man

    CrewV Man Member+

    Aug 18, 2011
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Brian Carroll will forever be the Shootout Shanker to me.
    The Columbus Crew Castrol Index starting XI (6 - 3 - 1)
    Gruenebaum
    Miranda - Marshall - Williams - Gehrig - Francis - Vukovic
    O'Rourke - Mirosevic - Urso
    OnlyMan Vargas
     
  21. HardHatMike

    HardHatMike DOOOOOOOOM!

    Traktor Nebraska
    Aug 31, 2005
    Lincoln, Nebraska
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Brian Carroll will forever be one the most important players of the best MLS Cup team of all time to me.
     
  22. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In the BC case, he wasn't willing to play the Brian Ching card and threaten to retire. They thought he was untouchable due to his salary in the expansion draft. Turns out he wasn't, so they decided to get *something* for him rather than nothing. The whole thing was complicated by Lenhart wanting a trade after the expansion draft. The main culprit here is the expansion draft, where the Crew have gotten s*rewed on a regular basis. Houston should have been fined for the game they played with the Ching case.
     
  23. eboe

    eboe Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 23, 2006
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Part of the problem is too many decisions made with heart and not head. He shanked a PK. SO EFFING WHAT. You don't get rid of, or not protect, your best Dmid for not hitting a PK in the playoffs. Donovan shanked one in MLS Cup and didn't go un-protected. It's just another example of the stupid freaking decisions that get made with heart and not head around here.
     
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  24. JB the First

    JB the First Member

    Apr 28, 2009
    Texas
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I really doubt they got rid of him just because of one play. I think the move was made partially because Carroll was (and is) getting older, and the assumption was that he would be losing a step and wouldn't be as effective. Remember the 2010 playoffs when that notorious speedster Pablo Mastroeni ran right by him on a Colorado goal?

    Carroll was a good player and an important part of our best team ever. He isn't the same player he used to be, though, and he wasn't last season either. At this point, I think it's a toss up between him and Balchan (even though being gone for a while has apparently turned Balchan into another one of the whipping boys around here. We have short memories.) The only difference is that Carroll is healthy and Balchan isn't.

    We traded Lenhart at his request. We got Meram and cash in return. Not a bad deal. When we traded him, the general BS mood was that we weren't sorry to see him gone (even though he led the team in goals across all competitions the previous year).
     
  25. eboe

    eboe Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 23, 2006
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If BC wasn't the "same player he used to be", then why did we and the league sign him for 4 more years in the middle of that season? The guy is only 30 years old right now, hardly old enough to be declining in skill set... and he would have been 28 or 29 at that time.
     

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