News: Carlisle: Najar, Mwanga and Tchani on U.S. radar

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Stan Collins, Jan 5, 2011.

  1. Hararea

    Hararea Member+

    Jan 21, 2005
    It's clear what line the agent is pushing, not clear why he's pushing it.

    ESPN really has no business acting as his mouthpiece, though. They've got plenty of native Spanish speakers on staff who could've offered an impartial review of the audio from Najar's interview. I do not believe that Schaerlaeckens characterized it accurately.

    EDIT to add that Schaerlaeckens doesn't characterize Najar's situation fully, since playing an official junior international would also cap-tie him permanently.
     
  2. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Well yes and no.

    According to the MLS article yesterday........

    http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/najar-refutes-reports-honduras-commitment

    Although he has a green card, Najar does not have a US passport and is currently only eligible to play for Honduras and El Salvador. Blah, blah, blah

    .........so if he represents Honduras at the U20 level, he can still do a one-time switch to El Salvador. But not ever to the United States.

    It would be quite amusing if after all this nonsense, Andy chose El Salvador :)
     
  3. Hararea

    Hararea Member+

    Jan 21, 2005
  4. Rorysm

    Rorysm New Member

    Aug 12, 2008
    Hidden in a Cave
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hadn't heard that he was eligible for El Salvador.
     
  5. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There are two possibilities.

    1. He is ready to announce a final decision because he wants to help Honduras with the U-20s this year.
    2. He is ready to announce a final decision because he's sure he can get US citizenship in time for the 2014 World Cup.

    You're welcome. :D :p ;)
     
  6. soccerdisciple

    Mar 8, 2004
    Players who are decisive and clear about what they want and who without reservation commit from the heart to the jersey, colors and country are valued higher than those who are not sure and make it an intellectual process. Najar has competition with big hearts for the USA at the position he plays. He may end up as a bench player at best for the Nats.
     
  7. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Well, I think he's a damn good player..........but the point stands. There's no gaurantee that in ~3 years when Najar becomes available for the USMNT (hypothetically), we'd want him. The kid would probably be assured of a place on our U20 national team right now, but there's also a lot of other talent on that team. A lot can happen in 3 years.
     
  8. El Michael

    El Michael Member

    Dec 17, 2009
    Club:
    DC United
    So true.. I wonder how he would comapre to Gatt, Gyau, Renken and Gil is 3-4 years.

    Gyau appears to be a player very close to Najar.
     
  9. moytoy12

    moytoy12 Member

    Jun 20, 2008
    Much more interested in Mwanga being on the USMNT than either Najar or Tchani.

    Quite simply, we have a dearth of quality forward options and the more potential we have in that position the better.

    We at least have some depth in the midfield.
     
  10. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Yeah, a guy like Tchani (who I regard as a quality player) was a guy that could've been an important pick-up in an earlier era, like Shalrie Joseph could've been in the mid-2000s had he been eligible. At this point, he'd be one of many guys fighting for a second-string role after Holden/Bradley/Jones//Edu, like Spector and Feilhaber and Torres and Kljestan and Clark and McCarty (not that all of those "other" guys are necessarily starting on the same footing; Spector has a leg up).
     
  11. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    damn good thing that Earnie Stewart, Roy Wegerle and Thomas Dooley did not have your rules committed to heart! The USA would have been F$#@ed.
     
  12. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    Shalrie at his prime would still be mega-valuable for the USA.
     
  13. Martin Fischer

    Martin Fischer Member+

    Feb 23, 1999
    Kampala. Uganda
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Really? We currently have four guys that start in better leagues than he ever played in. He's a great player, but we are strong at his position now. Back in the day... that's another story.
     
  14. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Depth ain't bad.

    If Tchani gets US citizenship, and still hasn't been looked at by Cameroon, then we'll probably take a look at him. All the guys you've mentioned have different skill sets, so it would just be up to the USMNT coach to pick the guys that fit his plan.

    Ask yourself this.......if he was eligible for camp cupcake this year..........would you have rather called up Tchani or Eric Alexander? For me the answer would have to be Tchani.
     
  15. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Meh. I saw Tchani play a lot last year. He was okay. Hopefully he improves on last season, cause if not I never see him being anything more than a capable MLS mid.
     
  16. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Totally. I'm not writing him off. I consider him a strong player. My point is that if he ends up with Cameroon, he's not a loss that I think we have to pine too much over.

    The loss of a guy like Mwanga (who has given every indication without explicitly saying so that he intends specifically to play for the USA once eligible), on the other hand, is a loss that would most likely be felt. We need finishers up top.
     
  17. striker

    striker Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    IMO, Joseph at his prime was in the same class as these 4 guys that you referred to. IIRC, his offer for transfer to Celtics (?) was turned down by the MLS.
     
  18. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    That's correct. Of course, central midfield has been a position we've been relatively secure in with or without Shalrie Joseph.

    And there was exactly a zero percent chance we were going to get him anyway. Joseph was first capped by Grenada's senior team in 2002, before he had played a game in MLS. (remember that he was drafted in 2002, but tried to find a club overseas for much of that year.) If he was in the process of getting citizenship while he was playing at po-dunk Bryant & Stratton College in Syracuse.........then maybe he'd have been eligible in some reasonable frame of time. But there was zero reason for anyone to think that he'd be a USMNT-capable player at the time. There was certainly no reason for the USSF to call him up and say, "We realize you're essentially playing at ITT Tech right now, but just in case you defy the odds and become good some day..........perhaps you should start the process to getting citizenship?" That wasn't going to happen. I'm not sure Shalrie is a citizen right now, actually.

    These things happen. Same with Vedad Ibisevic, Bakary Soumare, and countless others. The chances were slim. Personally, I think the chances of us getting Najar are slim. We have to ask him to wait ~3 years........missing the U20WC, Olympics, Gold Cup, and perhaps the start of World Cup qualifiying.............while Honduras is calling him every day asking him to suit up for them in those competitions. Eventually he'll cave. Mwanga's a different story. I suspect our chances are really good to get him.

    [I'll add that I thought there was no way in hell we were going to get Bunbury. So what do I know? Not much.]
     
  19. irish56

    irish56 Member+

    Oct 30, 2006
    indy
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  20. sakibomb523

    sakibomb523 Member+

    Oct 13, 2009
    Orange County
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    it did in the Andy Najar thread on the YNT board. I hope he plays for Mars
     
  21. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Quick, everyone open a twitter account and tweet USA!
     
  22. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    ussoccer97531 repped this.
  23. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    Good for him, quality player deserves it. Best of luck dude.
     
  24. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    crap......good player. was likely good enough for us, but we will never know now. yet another one I would have at least liked to look into, I think he could have been great in the destroyer role to replace JJ. Cannot blame him at all for taking this callup though given current USMNT climate
     

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