Review: Caribbean Nations Cup 2010

Discussion in 'Caribbean' started by 13370, Sep 18, 2009.

  1. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Caribbean Nations Cup 2010 (Guadeloupe)

    So you averaged each team's score from the two components. I'm going to do some math about it when I have time.
     
  2. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Caribbean Nations Cup 2010 (Guadeloupe)

    For the 20 Caribbean areas (not all of them are countries) Edgar ranked who played at least one 2008-2009 Caribbean Championship and Gold Cup match, the mean number of games played is 5.80. For the 25 Caribbean areas Edgar ranked who played at least one qualifier for World Cup 2010, the mean number of games played is 4.08. Excluding French Guiana and Sint Maarten who didn't play any games for either component, the other 28 areas played an average of 7.79 games from the components combined and obtained an average of 19,838.5 points, with 12 out of 28 areas scoring above the mean. 17 areas played games in both components, and those areas averaged 853 more points from qualifiers for World Cup 2010 than for 2008-2009 Caribbean Championship and Gold Cup matches. 8 of the areas averaged more points from qualifiers for World Cup 2010 and 9 of the areas averaged more points from 2008-2009 Caribbean Championship and Gold Cup matches.
     
  3. siebenw

    siebenw Member

    Jun 15, 2007
    Würzburg, Germany
  4. theworm2345

    theworm2345 Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Chicago, IL, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
  5. siebenw

    siebenw Member

    Jun 15, 2007
    Würzburg, Germany
  6. theworm2345

    theworm2345 Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Chicago, IL, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Re: Caribbean Nations Cup 2010 (Guadeloupe)

    Now if only I could find the dates of birth too ;) :D


    Also, there is no evidence it will be held in Guadeloupe, and it seems there has not even been a decision on where it will be held yet, though Barbados has made a bid to host.
    http://www.nationnews.com/news/sports/BFA-celebrates-100th-anniversary-copy-for-web

     
  7. 13370

    13370 Member

    Jul 27, 2008
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    Re: Caribbean Nations Cup 2010 (Guadeloupe)

    Barbados have host the Caribbean Nations Cup/Digicel Caribbean Championship many times before ,if Guadeloupe host the finals
    it is a first for a francophone Caribbean country .These CFU
    directors including Jack Warner are not mindful .
     
  8. mcruic

    mcruic Member

    Jun 26, 2004
    Scotland
    Club:
    Dundee United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    Re: Caribbean Nations Cup 2010 (Guadeloupe)

    Turks & Caicos Islands FA confirmed that they will not take part in the 2010 Digicel Caribbean Championship qualifying rounds.
     
  9. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. Surisoccer

    Surisoccer Member

    Jan 17, 2009
    Rotterdam
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Surinam
    Re: Caribbean Nations Cup 2010 (Guadeloupe)

    Surinamese-man,

    I don't know if your arround here,but what do you think about the new Dutch coach?Can he be succesfull?

    I mean,we had Dutch coaches before like Arie Groener and Arie de Vroet,but they have not achieved significant successes in the past.So i wonder what Kees Zwamborn can do for the Natio.
     
  11. Brokostong

    Brokostong New Member

    Jan 17, 2009
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Surinam
    Re: Caribbean Nations Cup 2010 (Guadeloupe)

    It's a heavy job for Kees Zwamborn to coach and bring up a better team.Kees also said that it will not be easy to work on the mentality of the players.We have to wait and watch what will happen in the future.it's now too early to judge about this coach,lets wait;)
     
  12. Surinamese-man

    Aug 20, 2008
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Surinam
    Re: Caribbean Nations Cup 2010 (Guadeloupe)

    Yes,there were Dutch coaches before,but do remember that there are coaches in different qualities.And experience is also an important factor.
    I think Kees Zwamborn can build up a strong team,but he must have the necessary resources,otherwise it will be very difficult to make something with a few tools.Look at the previous coach (Danny Hoekman),he decided not to be the national coach because there was not enough money and resources to make a strong team.

    That's why i warn you guys,do not expect too much,or atleast not yet.The fact is,the players are still amateurs and it's up to Mr.Zwamborn to bring a proces of development.By the way,Kees Zwamborn called up 29 players from u 23 y,so this will be a hole different team like before.Brokostong is wright,we have to wait and see what will happen.
     
  13. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Caribbean Nations Cup 2010 (Guadeloupe)

    "Sub"-ing to this thread for two reasons:

    1) This is probably the most reliable way to get up-to-date information on qualifying, and
    2) My parents are both from Haiti...and if the Grenadiers are functional enough for the charity friendly next week ( http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/415208/seleccion-hatiti-renace-reaparecera-ante-ex-estrellas-futbol - in Spanish), then hopefully they can give qualifying for the next Gold Cup a shot.
     
  14. theworm2345

    theworm2345 Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Chicago, IL, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Re: Caribbean Nations Cup 2010 (Guadeloupe)

    The tournament will be in Martinique

    http://www.antilles-sport.com/news/default.asp


    La Martinique organisera la phase finale de la Digicel Cup en fin d’année 2010. La décision a été prise ce week-end lors du congrès de l’UFC à Trinidad. La Martinique était en concurrence avec Barbade et la Guadeloupe. Son savoir faire avec l’organisation, notamment du match internationnal France / Costa Rica en 2005, a été mis en avant par les représentants de la ligue de Martinique présents à Trinidad.
    La phase finale devrait se dérouler en novembre ou décembre avec la participation de 8 équipes. La Martinique et la Jamaïque sont qualifiées d’office et seront tête de série des 2 poules de 4.


    The Martinique host the finals of the Digicel Cup in late 2010. The decision was taken this weekend at the congress of the CFU in Trinidad. The Martinique was competing with Barbados and Guadeloupe. His expertise with the organization, including the game internationnal France / Costa Rica in 2005, was put forward by representatives of the League of Martinique to Trinidad present.
    The final phase should take place in November or December with the participation of 8 teams. The Martinique and Jamaica are automatically qualified and will be seeded in 2 groups of 4.
     
  15. Gwadaboyz 72

    Gwadaboyz 72 Member

    Jun 27, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Re: Caribbean Nations Cup 2010 (Guadeloupe)


    Being a native of Guadeloupe who didn't organize this competition is a real disappointment! :(
     
  16. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Caribbean Nations Cup 2010 (Guadeloupe)

    Yes, but forget about that - there's a bigger competition to be had between Martinique and Guadeloupe now. Namely, who gets to call up Thierry Henry for the Gold Cup if he retires from France after this summer. :D
     
  17. Gwadaboyz 72

    Gwadaboyz 72 Member

    Jun 27, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Re: Caribbean Nations Cup 2010 (Guadeloupe)

    Yes but at 32, it will be a bit tight for him because he must wait five years before wearing another selection's jersey this year if he decides to leave the french one. Perhaps it will be for the 2015 Gold Cup and he will be 37 years! It's possible for him because Jocelyn Angloma himself a former player of the France team has played for his country during the 2007 Gold Cup at 41! True, for which team will he play? For Guadeloupe or Martinique? In the knowledge that his father is a native of Guadeloupe and his mother comes from Martinique. But Thierry is named Henry who is his father so therefore it would be more Guadeloupe than Martinique. I think he should probably choose Guadeloupe. Moreover, Thierry Henry even said once that he'd love it to wear the Gwadaboys' jersey. Anywear, i wouldn't make a drama if ever he wouldn't wear the Guadeloupe's jersey because we have enough quality players in Guadeloupe and Europe. We'll have to prove it this year again! Although unfortunatly we will not organize the final tournament of the DCC but we all have strengths to bring the title home.:)
     
  18. theworm2345

    theworm2345 Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Chicago, IL, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Re: Caribbean Nations Cup 2010 (Guadeloupe)

    Are you sure this is the case? Pascal Chimbonda played for Guadeloupe in 2003 and then for France in 2006. Ronald Zubar played for Guadeloupe in 2003 and then France in 2004. I think Louis Saha, who I believe still gets called up to play for France, was involved in Guadeloupe's preparations for the Gold Cup last summer too.
     
  19. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Caribbean Nations Cup 2010 (Guadeloupe)

    Maybe you have to wait 5 years to change from France to Guadeloupe but don't have to wait to change from Guadeloupe to France.
     
  20. Gwadaboyz 72

    Gwadaboyz 72 Member

    Jun 27, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Re: Caribbean Nations Cup 2010 (Guadeloupe)

    There are some errors in your message! It's true Pascal Chimbonda played for Guadeloupe in 2003 Gold Cup qualifying but Ronald Zubar and Louis Saha never played for Guadeloupe before being in France team. Ronald Zubar only played for France U20. As he's not yet played for the A team, Zubar can be selected for Guadeloupe's team. And so he had his first two selections with gwadaboys in march 2009.

    It's true, you have to wait 5 years to change from France to Guadeloupe but don't have to wait to change from Guadeloupe to France. It's an unfair process, it's just a colonial fact! Thereford Guadeloupe's integration to FIFA would have the merit of making things clear! Players will chose between Guadeloupe and France and this choice will be final!
     
  21. leeka

    leeka Member

    Feb 7, 2009
    Bayamón PR
    Club:
    Puerto Rico Islanders
    Nat'l Team:
    Puerto Rico
    How I know which teams going to play in this cup. I know that the money it's an issue, but how's they (CFU) decides who's gonna to play?
     
  22. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If they use the same format as the last two versions, then only the host (Martinique) and the defending champion (Jamaica) will qualify directly to the Caribbean Cup. 6 other spots are up for grabs, and everyone who doesn't withdraw themselves (like the Turks and Caicos Islands have done) is eligible to participate in qualifying.
     
  23. theworm2345

    theworm2345 Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Chicago, IL, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    The CFU doesn't decide, any Federation that wants to enter can enter. All CFU members are welcome to enter. Sometimes (though certainly not in all, or most necessarily, situations) the groups are based on location so islands that are closer to each other play each other in the early rounds (like Aruba/Netherlands Antilles, Suriname/Guyana in last tournament).
     
  24. Edgar

    Edgar Member

    Any news on the format? They'll probably drop the system with 4 groups before the final stage and revert to the system used two years ago:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean_Championship_2008

    3 groups of 4 before the final stage with Cuba, Guadeloupe and Grenada getting a bye to this stage.

    With Jamaica and Martinique already qualified, that leaves 24 teams (since Turks and Caicos Islands won't participate) to battle it out for the 9 places available in the last qualifying round.

    It's very unlikely to have all 24 teams actually playing. But if it happens, they could have 6 groups of 4 teams with the winners and best 3 runners-up joining Cuba, Guadeloupe and Grenada.
     
  25. Edgar

    Edgar Member

    Looking at previous group hosts and taking seeding into account, these could be the groups (hosts in bold)

    Haiti
    Cayman Islands
    Bahamas
    Dominican Republic

    Bermuda
    British Virgin Islands
    Saint-Martin
    US Virgin Islands

    Suriname
    Guyana
    Saint Lucia
    French Guiana

    Trinidad and Tobago
    Netherlands Antilles
    Aruba
    Saint Vincent and the Grenadines

    Barbados
    Saint Kitts and Nevis
    Dominica
    Montserrat

    Antigua and Barbuda
    Puerto Rico
    Anguilla
    Sint Maarten
     

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