Card Accumulation

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by USA2010?, Jun 23, 2010.

  1. USA2010?

    USA2010? Member

    Mar 23, 2006
    Who would have thought the only players with yellows would be:
    Dolo
    Demerit
    Altidore
    Beasley

    Findley already served suspension, so he does not count.

    If we can avoid a red, this means the only suspensions might be for the quarter, if we get by Ghana...a big IF.

    Yellows erased after the quarters...occasionally FIFA gets it right. Now, if they could just figure a way to get the offsides calls right. I'm not hammering the linesmen, since calling those tight offsides properly is close to humanly impossible.
     
  2. ne plus ultra

    ne plus ultra Member

    Jul 9, 2000
    Dolo, Demerit, Altidore; and Beasley for chesting the ball down in the box.
     
  3. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Member+

    Apr 10, 2002
    California - Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Although I haven't done an analysis, my gut feeling from watching all of the games is that the US is in much better shape than most teams going into the Round of 16. May be even the best shape...
     
  4. usa1950

    usa1950 Member

    Aug 18, 2000
    Indiana USA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    And with THE best draw around. A semifinalist will come from USA-Korea-Uruguay-Ghana.

    We could be in with Mexico-Germany-Argentina instead of England. There are no easy games at this stage in the tournament, but I'll take our spot vs England's spot no doubt about it.
     
  5. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Any Ghanians serving suspension?
     
  6. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

    Jun 16, 1999
    Davis, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No; they got a total of 6 yellows in the three group stage games, but nobody has 2.
     
  7. Dervos

    Dervos Member+

    Mar 13, 2002
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Thanks, I was wondering too, but too lazy to look for myself :D
     
  8. Deuteriumoxide

    May 27, 2003
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How about that? The discipline in our central midfield has been outstanding.
     
  9. GrnhvnLasers11

    Feb 2, 2006
    LA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you bet me we'd get through the group stage with no red cards on Clark or Bradley, I would've lost a lot of money.
     
  10. chalaron

    chalaron Member+

    Aug 15, 2006
    Baton Rouge, Louisia
    Freddy Adu just got sent home from Aris :D


    /ducks
     
  11. T Nitty

    T Nitty New Member

    Jun 3, 2004
    MD
    I kept waiting for something stupid to happen, resulting in yellow or red cards. So glad those expectations were not met.

    If FIFA had a sensible practice of reviewing cards after the game, we would have even less.

    OMG! Maybe the US will get the Fair Play Trophy!!!!!!

    We should at least get the Most Entertaining Team Award.
     
  12. cklab

    cklab Member

    Jan 3, 2008
    Dallas
    Amazing we've got no red cards after three games when at the Confederations Cup we had three reds in the five games. Lot of credit to Bob Bradley here for getting us to be more disciplined and not making rash challenges, especially considering how strictly we seem to be scrutinized by the refs historically.
     
  13. BigLarr

    BigLarr Member

    Jan 2, 2001
    Overland Park, KS
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So with 2 yellows Altidore has to sit against Ghana right?
     
  14. blech

    blech Member+

    Jun 24, 2002
    California
    The yellows are erased AFTER the quarters. If someone gets a second yellow in the quarters, they will be suspended for the semis. To state it a different way, the change only prevents someone from being suspended for the final.

    While having the stars available for the Final is a noble goal, it means in practice that 2 yellows in 5 games results in a suspension, as opposed to the 2 yellows in 3 games that was the result of the prior rule and wiping the slate clean after group play. 2 in 3 seems like an issue; not so clear that 2 in 5 warrants a suspension personally. By and large I would think this benefits the top, top squads who have lots of depth, although I guess in fairness they're the ones most likely to get these extra games for the most part. As you note, USA is in very good shape in the count, but there will certainly be others for whom this is going to become an issue, and frankly USA can't really afford to lose any defenders for any games.
     
  15. blech

    blech Member+

    Jun 24, 2002
    California
    Altidore only has 1.
     
  16. BigLarr

    BigLarr Member

    Jan 2, 2001
    Overland Park, KS
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good. My bad.
     
  17. blech

    blech Member+

    Jun 24, 2002
    California
    The list can be found here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup_disciplinary_record

    Ghana has 6 with 1 card:
    Lee Addy
    Anthony Annan
    André Ayew
    Jonathan Mensah
    Prince Tagoe
    Isaac Vorsah

    Uruguay have only 2 with 1 card:
    Diego Lugano
    Mauricio Victorino
    Note: Nicolas Lodeiro got 2 and served his suspension in last game.

    South Korea / Korea Republic has 3 with 1 card:
    Lee Chung-Yong
    Yeom Ki-Hun
    Kim Nam-Il

    As stated in the original post, USA have 4 with 1 card, plus Findley having served his and now ready to go. It feels like only 4 is in pretty good shape, but in reality USA has 6 cards in the 3 games. With the average at 3.82 per game (for both teams), USA is actually slightly on the higher side. From a quick glance at some of the others who may advance in other groups:

    I see that Switzerland has 8 players with 1 card, with still a game to play in the group. While Chile also has 8 yellows from 2 games, with 2 players suspended for the Spain game and 4 players on 1 yellow. At least one of these teams will advance.

    Germany has had a player serve a suspension (Klose for 2 in 1 game), and has 6 players with 1 card as they take on England.
     
  18. dawgtide

    dawgtide Member

    Jun 5, 2005
    Atlanta, Ga.
    We may get most entertaining but the wikipedia linked page shows Spain with no yellows albeit a game less than us so far. Hard to believe a team can have no yellows through 2 games, but I guess we will see if they make it 3. They may win the fair play trophy with that kind of record.

    Also Japan and Italy have 1 each through 2 games. Italy must not be diving as much as usual. The Japanese probably don't tackle hard for fear of offending someone so not surprised about them.
     
  19. JAVez1983

    JAVez1983 Member

    Sep 2, 2008
    Tampa
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do not be deceived!!!
    Italy: PK in the New Zealand game...
    Japan: Drogba's arm (friendly, but still)...
     

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