Canucks Abroad - New Tracking Thread (as of June 30, 2009)

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  1. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
    Huh. I was assuming we'd be in Vancouver under the dome. We know it would sell out and it is sort of their turn with the early games having been in Toronto and Edmonton. Also, the weather advantage of a cold game would be less against the US than against one of our warmer weather opponents. At some point there's a balance of how much benefit there is versus how much our skill game also suffers.
     
  2. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    That game is between away games to Panama and El Salvador. Flying in and out of Central America is easier from Toronto than Vancouver.

    Also, at that time of year, the weather would be similar to Edmonton last night but with a better pitch. We have the advantage that our guys already went through this already
     
  3. Tonel

    Tonel Member

    Sporting
    Aug 22, 2021
    Jonathan David bagging a brace today for Lille vs Monaco
     
  4. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
    I saw an article on the Globe and Mail suggesting Hamilton. Eastern time zone for travel but turf instead of grass in Toronto.
     
  5. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Canada's road to Qatar

    Jonathan David - Inter Milan has emerged as the latest club wanting to sign David after Liverpool.
    https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...d-elite-striker-lille-ligue-1-inter-liverpool

    France - Ligue 1
    F Jonathan David played 80 minutes and scored both goales for Lille in a 2-2 tie with Monaco

    Germany - Bundesliga
    LB Alphonso Davies played the last 38 minutes for Bayern Munich in a 2-1 loss to Augsburg

    Germany - 2. Bundesliga
    CB Scott Kennedy played the full game for Jahn Regensburg in a 4-1 loss to Hamburger SV

    Belgium - First Division A
    F Iké Ugbo played the final 14 minutes for Genk in a 2-1 loss to Beerschot

    Turkey - Super Lig
    LB Sam Adekugbe
    played the full game for Hatayspor in a 3-1 win against Antalyaspor

    F Cyle Larin played the full game while M Atiba Hutchinson played 46 minutes for Besiktas in a 2-0 loss to Alanyaspor

    Greece - Super League
    CB Derek Cornelius
    played the full game for Panetolikos in a 1-0 win against Apollon Smirnis

    Serbia - Super Liga
    GK Milan Borjan
    started for Belgrade Red Star in a 5-1 win against Mladost Lucani

    M Stefan Mitrovic played for Radnicki Nis in a 1-1 tie with Napredak

    England - League One
    F Theo Corbeanu
    played 64 minutes and scored a goal for Sheffield Wednesday in a 3-2 win against Accrington

    F Daniel Jebbison played the full game for Burton Albion in a 1-0 loss to MK Dons

    Portugal - Cup
    CB Steven Vitoria played the full game and score a goal for Moreirense in a 3-2 win against Vitoria de Guimaraes

    Scotland - League Cup Semi-final
    M Scott Arfield played 69 minutes and scored a goal for Rangers in a 3-1 loss to Hibernian

    M David Wotherspoon played 51 minutes for St. Johnstone in a 1-0 loss to Celtic

    Uruguay - Primera Division Clausura
    CB Martin Amuz played the full game for Villa Espanola in a 3-0 loss to Liverpool FC

    Canada - Premier League semifinals

    The defending champions Forge FC defeats York United 3-1 and advance to their 3rd consecutive final


    Pacific FC defeats Cavalry 2-1 in extra time and advance to the CPL Finals on December 5

    Canada - Canadian Championship Final
    CF Montreal defeats Toronto FC 1-0. They qualify to the 2022 CONCACAF Champions League alongside with Forge FC

    Canada - BC League 1
    The league announced Unity FC as an expansion club based in Langley, BC
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    Canada - U Sports men's soccer championship
    Montreal Carabins (Montreal University) defeated Carlton Ravens (Carlton University in Ottawa) 3-2 on penalties. They are the best team in Canada out of 48!
     
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  6. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Besiktas 1-2 Ajax

    Besiktas scored first, but they lost all 5 games with a -11 goal differential, and Ajax won all 5 games with a +13 goal differential. Hutchinson was subbed on in the 81st, and Larin got a yellow in the 88th. Besiktas's last chance at points is at Dortmund, and Besiktas is the only Champions League club without a point. The last club to lose all 6 games was AEK Athens in 2018-2019.
     
  7. Tonel

    Tonel Member

    Sporting
    Aug 22, 2021
    Ike Ugbo scored for Genk as they tie it up at 1-1 vs Dinamo Zagreb in the Europa just before HT
     
  8. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
    So that's five confirmed now? Altitude (North Vancouver), Rivers (Kamloops), TSS (Burnaby), Unity (Langley), and the Whitecaps reserve team (Vancouver)?

    There were rumours that the Victoria Highlanders intended to move over. Possibly a reserve team from Pacific as well? I know they were hoping to start with eight teams.
     
  9. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Canada's road to Qatar
    Canada Soccer has confirmed that the next home game will be at the home of CPL Champions Forge FC - Tim Horton's Field in Hamilton, Ontario.

    Cyle Larin is linked to Watford and Newcastle

    Stephen Eustaquio - Seems like he's really good...
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    CONCACAF - League

    CPL Champions Forge FC came back from a 2 goal deficit to tie the game 2-2 against Honduras-side Motagua. The return game is next week in Honduras


    UEFA - Champions League
    F Jonathan David played 90 minutes and scored the winning goal for Lille in a 1-0 win against Salzburg - 2nd best player in CONCACAF

    LB Alphonso Davies played the full game and was "man of the match" for Bayern Munich in a 2-1 win against Dynamo Kiev - Best player of CONCACAF
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    F Cyle Larin played the full game while M Atiba Hutchinson played the last 9 minutes for Besiktas in a 2-1 loss to Ajax

    UEFA - Europa League
    F Iké Ugbo played the full game and scored a goal for Genk in a 1-1 tie with Dinamo Zagreb

    GK Milan Borjan started for Belgrade Red Star and had 2 saves 1-0 win against Ludogorets Razgrad

    M Scott Arfield the final 9 minutes for Rangers in a 2-0 win over Sparta Prague

    UEFA - Conference League
    F Liam Millar played 64 minutes for FC Basel in a 3-2 win over Kairat Almaty

    Scotland - Premiership

    M Harry Paton played the full game with the assist and was "man of the match" for Ross County in a 1-0 win against Hibernian

    England - League One
    F Daniel Jebbison
    played 70 minutes and scored 2 goals for Burton Albion in a 4-0 win against Accrington

    F Theo Corbeanu played the full game with the assist for Sheffield Wednesday in a 2-1 win against MK Dons
     
  10. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Canada's road to Qatar
    FC Porto's shopping list identifies Stephen Eustaquio yet again. His current club Pacos de Ferreira had refuse to sell him as the club were competing in Europa Conference League.

    Germany - Bundesliga
    LB Alphonso Davies played the full game for Bayern Munich in a 1-0 win over Arminia Bielefeld - Speed!

    France - Ligue 1
    F Jonathan David played the full game for Lille in a 1-1 tie with Nantes.

    Portugal - Liga Portugal

    CB Steven Vitoria played the full game and score a goal for Moreirense in a 2-2 tie with Gil Vicente

    M Stephen Eustaquio played the full game in a 2-0 loss to Maritimo

    Scotland - Premiership

    M Scott Arfield played the full game and scored a goal for Rangers in a 3-1 win against Livingston

    M Harry paton played the full game for Ross County in a 1-1 tie with Dundee United

    Russia - Premier League
    F Ritchie Ennin
    played the last 27 minutes for Nizhny Novgorod in a 0-0 tie with Krylya Sovetov

    Belgium - First Division A

    F Iké Ugbo played the full game for Genk in a 3-2 loss to Club Brugge

    Turkey - Super Lig
    LB Sam Adekugbe played the full game for Hatayspor in a 4-0 loss to Sivasspor

    F Cyle Larin played the full game for Besiktas in a 4-0 loss to Giresunspor

    Switzerland - Super League
    LW Liam Millar played the second half for FC Basel in a 3-1 win over Luzern

    Greece - Super League
    CB Derek Cornelius
    played the full game for Panetolikos in a 1-0 loss to Panathinaikos

    Serbia - Super Liga
    M Stefan Mitrovic
    played 75 minutes for Radnicki Nis and scored a goal in a 3-0 win over FK Radnik Surdulica

    GK Milan Borjan started for Belgrade Red Star in a 3-0 win against FK Spartak Subotica

    England - League One
    F Daniel Jebbison played 88 minutes and scored a goal for Burton Albion in a 2-0 win against Doncaster. Sheffield United is expected to recall him for their Championship campaign.

    F Theo Corbeanu played the last 17 minutes for Sheffield Wednesday in a 2-2 tie with Wycombe

    South Korea - K-League 1 Final Group B

    CB Doneil Henry played the full game for Suwon Bluewings in a 0-0 tie with Ulsan Hyundai

    Chile - Primera Division

    RB Juan Cordova played the last 4 minutes for Huachipato in a 2-0 loss to Universidad Catolica

    Canada - BC League 1
    The league announced Victoria Highlanders as an expansion club based on Vancouver Island. They will be joining
    • Altitude FC, North Vancouver
    • Rivers FC, Kamloops
    • TSS Rovers FC, Burnaby
    • Unity FC, Langley
    • Vancouver Whitecaps*
    *CSB/CPL are already assisting the league with their marketing and helping its launch. The intention if for CPL to acquire BC League 1 like they did in Ontario. Sooo...one of the Whitecaps team will be under CSB/CPL umbrella...FUNNY!:D
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  11. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
    Six is good. I know they are hoping to start with eight but six is at least enough as a decent starting point. I'm also glad that they will have at least two founding teams from outside metro Vancouver. One problem for the PLSQ is that many seasons they've really been the PLSM with pretty much every club in and around Montreal. Since the whole point of the D3 leagues is to spread the talent net, especially to areas that don't have pro teams, being in more cities is great.

    I'm not sure why it's funny? Personally, I like the integration of the D3 leagues regardless of who owns or runs the individual teams. Plus the Canadian MLS teams had already reached out to the CPL about having teams in the CPL before the CPL started. I understand the reasons that the CPL didn't want that but the MLS teams didn't see a problem with having teams under the CSB/CPL umbrella then so I don't know why it would be a problem now. From a NT talent perspective, we benefit most when there's a good relationship between the CPL and the MLS teams.
     
  12. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    #837 Robert Borden, Nov 30, 2021 at 10:53 AM
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2021 at 11:03 AM
    I think they are expecting 7

    To be fair, half the province lives in Montreal Metro area while Beauport is closed to Quebec City. The club in St-Jean-sur Richelieu is deep south shore while the Ottawa club switch to Quebec since they are closer to Montreal than the GTA.

    Contrarily to popular belief, It's actually the other way around - MLS Clubs tried to join the league with their reserve teams on their terms AND dictate how the league should function. CPL actually met and heard them out wanting to work with them but MLS clubs rejected league's demand such as branding on their reserve teams being identified as such while the league was open with them owning but NOT operating as a reserve team.

    From echoes from those talks, they didn't go in that meeting in good fate and the intent to make it clear that CPL was not Canada's D1 while wanting the league to be set up to feed their system first and foremost. It's not that MLS clubs don't want the league around, they never liked the "Division 1" sanction and they lobbied against it up until May 2017. Even Don Garber was quick to brand it as a lower division.

    I mean, CPL 1st employee was Paul Beirne - who was TFC 1st employee. You couldn't get a better guy to make it work with the 3 clubs than him who's always been a fan of MLS and TFC.

    The most toxic out of the 3 was Bill Manning of TFC who viewed Ontario as their personal turf. They even tried to move their USL club to Hamilton when the city was in a dispute with Forge over Tim Horton's Field. It took the CSA to preemptively warn that no clubs would be sanction out of Hamilton but Forge.

    Montreal views the entire province of Quebec as their own, although they never cared to look outside of their academy system. They never cared about the Maritimes.Their reaction to a CPL club in Quebec and Montreal will be interesting.

    I must say that the Vancouver organization has truly come around and are being cooperative and positive about the league. (that's after after trying to sabotage CPL in Calgary with the CSA having to blocked the Whitecaps from putting a USL team there). They went from "we own Manitoba to BC" to sharing BC and coexisting with CPL/CSB.

    I was a HUGE fan of the 3 clubs from 2012 to 2016 - but stuff like this made me lose tons of respect for those clubs, this was unbelievably unnecessary. My problem isn't with MLS at all but I sure damn expected much better from those 3 ownerships
     
  13. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
    Even better.

    I'm not really criticizing the PLSQ so much as pointing out the reality. It's not easy or else it would already be done. I'd just like to see Sherbrooke, Trois-Rivieres, Gatineau, another QC team, and Drummondville, for example. Even L1O, which has by far the most sizeable cities to put teams in, has only just started getting meaningful numbers of teams outside the GTA in the past couple of years. And they still aren't in places like Kitchener, Cambridge, or Kingston.

    I wasn't in any of the meetings and, honestly, I'm not really concerned about whose fault it is that the CPL-MLS relationship is rough. The CPL was the new, pro D1 league and the MLS teams didn't want to treat them that way. Or the MLS teams had invested hundreds of millions of dollars establishing pro soccer in Canada and a bunch of teams that hadn't even kicked a ball yet wanted to be treated as equals. The MLS teams need to look beyond their own academies for talent. Or the CPL needs to stop putting up barriers to loan deals. Whatever the facts and however people want to interpret them, it is bad for us all that the relationship isn't smooth. As much as Europe is the goal, CPL to MLS is an obvious step along the way and should be an easy one.
     
  14. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    PLSQ isn't ran as efficiently as L1O - dare I say that BC League 1 will be better ran than PLSQ from the onset having read the league's operating manual.

    Might be the reality of the province where outside of Montreal, soccer isn't that popular and CF Montreal has failed spectacularly at rallying the province behind them and making the sport bigger... they can't even get regional support while pissing off their own fans in their own city

    It's totally fine to not see them as such and not doing business with CPL - but trying to set a negative narrative about the league before it kicked a ball was disappointing - especially when everyone agreed that it was needed

    They didn't want reserve teams in their league nor clubs being ran as such which makes total business sense. Disagreeing and not being part of it is one thing, interfering with the project because you didn't get your way was petty and beneath them

    Why? If anything it opened more opportunity to players those MLS teams have been snubbing for years, players that are proving that they shouldn't have been overlooked with the way they compete nationally and regionally. Doing what you're suggesting denies those guys these opportunities.

    The better question is - why aren't they putting reserve teams in PLSQ and L1O? Why aren't they working with CSB to launch a D2 where putting MLS reserve clubs would actually make sense? Maybe this will change over time but initially, they were more interested in controlling the league than cooperating with it.

    Weird that CPL is closer to European leagues than its neighbour MLS, a shame indeed.

    They are free to sign CPL players whenever they want like Joel Waterman at CF Montreal. What the league won't do is being the 3 clubs exclusive developmental system, which makes zero business sense.
     
  15. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
    TFC has both TFC III and TFC Academy (so their U19 and U17 squads) in L1O. The TFC-affiliated Windsor TFC team also plays in L1O. I'm not sure why Montreal doesn't seem interested in the PLSQ.

    Having MLS reserve clubs in a CPL2 would make sense if we get to the point where a CPL2 makes sense.
     

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