Pre-match: Can't believe it took this long for this thread, the 2024 Presidential election thread!

Discussion in 'Elections' started by ceezmad, Nov 7, 2020.

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Who will be the 2 Candidates for the 2 big parties in 2024

  1. Joe Biden

    34 vote(s)
    60.7%
  2. Kamala Harris

    15 vote(s)
    26.8%
  3. Bernie Sanders

    2 vote(s)
    3.6%
  4. Ted Cruz

    1 vote(s)
    1.8%
  5. Donald Trump (from prison)

    22 vote(s)
    39.3%
  6. One of the Trump idiots

    4 vote(s)
    7.1%
  7. A Never Trump Republican

    2 vote(s)
    3.6%
  8. The dude from Florida (not florida man)

    6 vote(s)
    10.7%
  9. A Trumpian Republican

    10 vote(s)
    17.9%
  10. Hail Grimes!

    8 vote(s)
    14.3%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

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    Switzerland
    Trump and Biden are similar. They are / were both in power. Just another political career for them, enrichment of their CV’s. We only see financed wars abroad, so called democracy installation in countries where only dictatorships work. How can we implement the western values in such states, women rights, LGBTIQ rights, religious rights, ethnic or tribal equal rights? All those wars aim only one thing: the natural resources.

    What is the future of Ukraine, even if Ukraine wins? The bridge between East and West? Western protectorate? One of the richest states in Europe? All ex-Soviet republics are in hands of Russia. They also have satellites in Balkan Peninsula, non-EU countries.

    Such systems are horrible in economic way. Salary for residents is low, the general standard seems bad, credit rating: S&P, Fitch…if you write: the poorest countries in Europe, Asia, Africa, Central and South America, among them we can see certain type of the same people in power. They only switch from time to time: President, Prime Minister, Minister of Foreign Affairs…

    The standard of Toronto and Tashkent is not so similar. :)

    I mentioned Hungary once. Albania, just another random country in chaos, just like other countries in that area.

    Many if those countries you can’t abandon even because of tourist reasons, strict visa programs…maybe 30 countries have normal economic perspective…the rest are funny flag colors, dictators who behave just like aristocrats and royal families.

    The perspective of Chad, Burkina Faso, Djibouti, Somalia…Mali, Togo…and many others?
     
  2. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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  3. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    I am blaming you on this ;)....You are willingly and deliberately agitating one of the craziest posters I have ever seen on BS....:ROFLMAO:
     
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  4. chaski

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  5. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

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  6. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    Belgium
    So here is something fun and great which will matter in this election. Many know that traffic to MSM media sites has been down because facebook has been closed off the flow of clicks. (bye bye buzzfeed!). But the hardest hit are right wing media sites like Daily wire lol

    This past February, readership of the 10 largest conservative websites was down 40 percent compared with the same month in 2020, according to The Righting, a newsletter that uses monthly data from Comscore—essentially the Nielsen ratings of the internet—to track right-wing media. (February is the most recent month with available Comscore data.) Some of the bigger names in the field have been pummeled the hardest: The Daily Caller lost 57 percent of its audience; Drudge Report, the granddaddy of conservative aggregation, was down 81 percent; and The Federalist, founded just over a decade ago, lost a staggering 91 percent. (The site’s CEO and co-founder, Sean Davis, called that figure “laughably inaccurate” in an email but offered no further explanation.) FoxNews.com, by far the most popular conservative-news site, has fared better, losing “only” 22 percent of traffic, which translates to 23 million fewer monthly site visitors compared with four years ago.
    While some liberal sites are also down, this appears to be existential for facebook bait machines who are almost totally dependent on getting their traffic from facebook.

    Unsurprisingly, the people who run conservative outlets see this as straightforward proof that Big Tech is trying to silence them. Neil Patel, a co-founder (with Tucker Carlson) of the Daily Caller, told me that the tech giants want “to crush any independent media that was perceived to have been helpful to Trump’s rise.” Patel calls this a form of “Big Tech–driven viewpoint discrimination” that “should scare any fair-minded individual.”

    A simpler explanation is that conservative digital media are disproportionately dependent on social-media referrals in the first place. Many mainstream publications have long-established brand names, large newsrooms to churn out copy, and, in a few cases, large numbers of loyal subscribers. Sites like Breitbart and Ben Shapiro’s The Daily Wire, however, were essentially Facebook-virality machines, adept at injecting irresistibly outrageous, clickable nuggets into people’s feeds. So the drying-up of referrals hit these publications much harder.

    And so far, unlike some publications that have pivoted away from relying on traffic and programmatic advertising, they’ve struggled to adapt. Rather than stabilizing amid Facebook’s new world order, traffic on the right has mostly continued south. Among the big losers over the past year are The Washington Free Beacon, whose traffic was down 58 percent, and Gateway Pundit, down 62 percent. Compare that with prominent mainstream and liberal sites, which, although still well below their 2020 heights, have at least stanched the bleeding. Traffic to The Washington Post and The New York Times from February 2023 to February 2024 was essentially flat. Slate’s was up 14 percent.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/04/conservative-digital-media-traffic/678055/
     
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  7. dapip

    dapip Member+

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    Great poll for Biden:

     
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  8. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
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    I don't know. A BigSoccer poster using a random word generator. It's so Bush 43 second term.

    TRADITION
     
  9. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Further proof there is a decent slice of registered GOP primary voters who don't want Trump. This is quite a big opportunity for Biden.

     
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  10. superdave

    superdave BigSoccer Yellow Card

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    I was just coming to post about that. She ended with 17% of the vote. That’s a lot of people going out of there way to raise their middle fingers at Trump.
     
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  11. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

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    There were some Dean Phillips votes registered against Biden yesterday. I think it was 93 - 7, though.
     
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  12. dapip

    dapip Member+

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    I heard this theory today, that all the anti Israel protests are being magnified as a way to create a wedge among democrats, plus also it gets clicks:

     
  13. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
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    Chicago Fire
    however, Ivy League graduates working at legacy media outlets are going to continue acting like what happens on their campuses is more important than what’s happening elsewhere in America. Or for that matter, Gaza.
     
  14. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

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    Jul 30, 2007
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    It really needs to be stated that outside of a few, Gaza really isn't a big deal in the general zeitgeist.
     
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  15. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
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    Throwing your hands up in the air because you know that it's never going to change is not the same thing as not caring. I feel outrage every single day that Israel are acting like circumcised Einsatzgruppen and they have been for decades. But I also know that I can't do anything about it.

    Kids know this less than adults.

    From a •purely• political point of view, Israel is not a powerful issue because the Democrats are terrible and the Republicans are even more terribler. If your issue is Israeli genocide, the only way you change policy is to protest at Starbucks or whatever. In other words, a complete waste of time.
     
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  16. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Ya think?! (Maybe not all, but definitely some, and from non-US actors.)

    Considering how little coverage Israel/Gaza got before 10/7, I'm not sure this argument holds a lot of water. And, yes, there were regular protests on many, many campuses prior to 10/7. The notice is that post 10/7, they are all occurring at once.

    Apart from that, is the legacy media really so Ivy heavy, or are they following X trends?



    I'm not sure that the kids have had no influence here. The protesting kids, by way of media coverage, seemed to have an influence on Biden's policy/stance towards the conflict. I wouldn't say a huge influence, but definitely they have been able to drive a narrative.

    Of course, the negative side also is present (antisemitism and anti-Palestinian/Arab).
     
  17. dapip

    dapip Member+

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  18. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

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    It's not throwing up your hands. It's a matter of what's relevant. Abortion and the fact that Trump might be back in office is relevant.

    Thing is, Gaza isn't the issue that'll topple Biden despite what leftists, and several pundits think (What's uncommitted doing again?).

    Israel isn't a big issue to most Americans because it's a country a thousand miles away. There's no American troops there, there isn't anything except a small but vocal group of people.
     
  19. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

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    Maybe, but it could also have a similar impact to the Defund the Police protests had. Not many actually supported it, but the protests allowed Republicans to run ads about lawless liberal cities and how Democrats as a whole were going to defund police departments across the country.
     
  20. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

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    https://www.niemanlab.org/2024/02/i...oom-just-a-bunch-of-ivy-leaguers-kinda-sorta/


    So what did I find?
    • The Ivy League is, in fact, a major feeder to the Times newsroom. Of the eight colleges most common among the staffers in my study, six are Ivy League schools. (In descending order, those are Yale, Columbia, Harvard, Brown, Cornell, and Princeton. The two non-Ivies are Northwestern and U.C. Berkeley.)
    • Even outside the Ivy League, staffers’ alma maters are disproportionately highly selective private colleges — think Stanford, Duke, Georgetown — or top state flagship schools like UNC, Michigan, or Texas.
    • When it comes to graduate school, Columbia is king, by a wide margin.

    His conclusion:

    To sum up: In this group of hundreds of Times staffers, more than a quarter are literal Ivy Leaguers. A roughly similar number attended other somewhat-elite-to-definitely-elite selective private universities. About a quarter went to a flagship or flagship-like state school, with the rest a mix of smaller private and public colleges. (Six staffers listed an HBCU as an alma mater — two each from Howard and Florida A&M and one each from Grambling State and Fort Valley State.9)​


    If they're trying to assemble a "newsroom that looks like America," they're failing to do so.
     
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  21. soccernutter

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    And in noting about the Ivy connection, today headlines from competing major news organizations:

    NYT

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    WaPo

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    NYT names Columbia, only, in the preview
    WaPo names three non-Ivy colleges in the preview.

    Yeah, NYT is definitely pro-Ivy. I will note, the other day I saw that the WaPo mentioned "anti-war" in their headline when talking about the protests at Columbia. Didn't read the article, but it stood out in coverage.
     
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  22. The Jitty Slitter

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    Tommy Vietor made a good point that there is a real contradiction in seeking the youth vote every 4 years and then telling them they are clowns for the rest of the time
     
  23. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

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    Summer-of-Love-Right-Before-The-Upcoming-Election: Part II
     
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  24. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

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    This is why MAGA loves trump, the GOP used to do that to their clowns, but now trump panders to them all the time.
     
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  25. The Jitty Slitter

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    This seems fine

     

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