Pre-match: Can't believe it took this long for this thread, the 2024 Presidential election thread!

Discussion in 'Elections' started by ceezmad, Nov 7, 2020.

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Who will be the 2 Candidates for the 2 big parties in 2024

  1. Joe Biden

    31 vote(s)
    60.8%
  2. Kamala Harris

    13 vote(s)
    25.5%
  3. Bernie Sanders

    1 vote(s)
    2.0%
  4. Ted Cruz

    1 vote(s)
    2.0%
  5. Donald Trump (from prison)

    20 vote(s)
    39.2%
  6. One of the Trump idiots

    4 vote(s)
    7.8%
  7. A Never Trump Republican

    2 vote(s)
    3.9%
  8. The dude from Florida (not florida man)

    6 vote(s)
    11.8%
  9. A Trumpian Republican

    9 vote(s)
    17.6%
  10. Hail Grimes!

    8 vote(s)
    15.7%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    That, my friends, is a bold statement. I mean, setting aside that when the % is 2, mathematically she can’t get “far” less. (I’ve been told today I’m a pedant. :ROFLMAO: )

    Even *I* think inertia and low information voters will get her to 2.

    But we both agree on the main point, that her ability to be a spoiler is limited because she’s hated in Arizona. My guess right now is that she will be a spoiler if the GOPs have a strong year and/or they nominate a sane person, but if the Dems have a good year and the GOPs nominate a Lake or a Masters, her vote count will be so low Gallego wins anyway.

    My deepest frivolous political wish is that she polls so poorly that she isn’t included in the debates. For someone who is so narcissistic, that would be a profound psychic injury.
     
  2. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

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    I read that Governor DeSantis may want Florida's legislature to repeal their "resign to run" law, which requires politicians to resign if they run for a different office. The Florida legislature meets through May, so by June we will probably know if DeSantis runs for president. Last time there were debates in summer 2019. DeSantis got praised for how much he was re-elected by, but IMO the Republican who wins the electability argument is Glenn Youngkin, who won governor of Virginia one year after Biden won it by 10.11. The Democrat will have a hard time winning without Virginia. If Georgia, Virginia, and Wisconsin are the only states that flip, the Republican will win.
     
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  3. soccernutter

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    Near the mountains.
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    I haven't followed Youngkin, but since he has been elected, I have come across small doses of reporting which say he has become Trumpist in governing. Maybe not Lake like, but along those lines, and voters are not happy. Somebody more familiar with the area will obviously have more info.
     
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  4. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    #154 charlie15, Dec 27, 2022
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2022
    Youngkin has shown his true colors and his veneer is gone long time ago. Va Governors can only do one term but I have no doubt he wouldn't have been re-elected either. He conned Va electors and they won't fall for it again. Biden if he runs will win Va easily. Let's keep in mind as well that, as often, Va Democrats failed into mobilizing their base last year as well.
    Let's make o mistake, Va is not Ga or Wi. The state is purple but strongly trending blue. This is mostly as a matter of demographics and the weight of the Northern Va / DC Suburbs solidly democratic counties. One can only hope that Ga will become the new Va soon.
     
  5. The Jitty Slitter

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    Bayern München
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    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    favreau had some interesting focus group stuff out of Va

    it seemed people were mostly pissed with TMac and Trumpkin presented as a normal republican.
     
  6. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    I hadn't listened to that, but I recall that he mentioned it in a subsequent pod.
     
  7. Funkfoot

    Funkfoot Member+

    May 18, 2002
    New Orleans, LA
    I saw my first Trump - Desantis 2024 yard sign. I don't think those people understand how unlikely that is.
     
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  8. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Dope springs eternal.
     
  9. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

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    Sep 6, 2001
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    Now, THAT would be fun...for about a week.
    Then it would be torture.
     
  10. soccernutter

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    Tottenham Hotspur
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    Near the mountains.
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    It would be a dumpster fire on a train wreck.
     
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  11. bigredfutbol

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    Sep 5, 2000
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    He was Trumpist in the primaries but was savvy enough to tone it way down in the general; and of course the political media also went along with his abrupt change of course. He was allowed to campaign as a moderate with little to no pushback.

    It also helped him that McAuliffe ran a terrible, tone-deaf campaign.
     
  12. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

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    In a cesspool.
     
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  13. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

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    Section 26
    ...fropped off the Empire State Building.
     
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  14. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

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    If polling says that's the best way for those two to make a run at the White House, it could happen. No matter how much DeSantis has to debase himself in this scenario, it could definitely happen.

    Of course, it's unlikely, but . . .
     
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  15. The Jitty Slitter

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    Imagine don jrs hot tears of rejection
     
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  16. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

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    Section 26
    How the ******** does fropped not get autocorrected to dropped on my phone, but I apparently like to talk about ********ing ducks multiple times a day?!?!!?!?!?!?:mad::mad::mad:
     
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  17. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    Your autocorrect must be Mormon.
     
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  18. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    So THAT's who's been drinking all my beer while I'm out!
     
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  19. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

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    Another Seat for Democrats to defend in 2024.

     
  20. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

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    A three judge panel unanimously declared South Carolina District 1 to be a racial gerrymander. District 1 was gained by a Democrat in 2018, gained by Republican Nancy Mace in 2020, and redistricting made it safe and made six of the seven districts safe for Republicans. African-Americans were moved from District 1 to District 6, which has Democrat Jim Clyburn. What surprises me is that Clyburn won by less than usual, so that does not show a sign of African-Americans being packed in his district. He won by 24.2 in 2022, by 37.4 in 2020, and by 46.9 in the great Republican year of 2014. The judges rejected challenges to Districts 2 and 5. Going by what percent of the statewide vote each party got and rounding to the nearest whole number, the split should be 5 to 2. South Carolina, West Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee, Missouri, Alabama, Arkansas, Mississippi, and Louisiana are nine states in which Republicans have at least 75 percent of the House seats, and they total 45 Republicans and 8 Democrats. That is even more extreme than California, which has 40 Democrats and 12 Republicans.

    If we are going to discuss Congress, the topic should be retitled to take out the word "presidential," or Congress should get a separate topic.
     
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  21. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    I just read that John Bolton is running.

    Yeah, that guy ...
     
  22. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

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    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
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    I think I was a teenager the first time I saw him. I thought he looked like that middle aged guy in the neighborhood who would yell at you for anything. That mustache of his doesn't help. either.
     
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  23. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

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    But just think of the mustache rides that guy most give.
     
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  24. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    Well....

    A new Emerson College poll finds Donald Trump with a 26-point advantage over Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis in the 2024 Republican presidential primary, 55% to 29%.
    The January poll also found a majority of Republican voters (55%) expect Trump to be the nominee, regardless of whom they support, while 35% expect DeSantis to be the nominee.
    Axios: Trio of polls show Trump clawing back momentum from DeSantis.
     
  25. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    Rick Wilson believes that MTG is angling to be Trump’s vice presidential nominee in 2024. Given Trump’s age and obesity, that is ********ing terrifying.
     
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