Pre-match: Can't believe it took this long for this thread, the 2024 Presidential election thread!

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Who will be the 2 Candidates for the 2 big parties in 2024

  1. Joe Biden

    34 vote(s)
    53.1%
  2. Kamala Harris

    20 vote(s)
    31.3%
  3. Bernie Sanders

    2 vote(s)
    3.1%
  4. Ted Cruz

    1 vote(s)
    1.6%
  5. Donald Trump (from prison)

    28 vote(s)
    43.8%
  6. One of the Trump idiots

    4 vote(s)
    6.3%
  7. A Never Trump Republican

    2 vote(s)
    3.1%
  8. The dude from Florida (not florida man)

    6 vote(s)
    9.4%
  9. A Trumpian Republican

    10 vote(s)
    15.6%
  10. Hail Grimes!

    10 vote(s)
    15.6%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Those colors have been blinking for a while.
     
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  2. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bottom is falling out….

     
  3. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
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    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France

    But we already knew his bottom is huge. What's the breaking news there?
     
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  4. the5timechamp

    the5timechamp Member+

    Nov 3, 2012
    If it truly is the time of despair and panic then we shall see if he lights the fuse… If he does everyone that plays along with this goes down in flames as well IMG_7051.jpeg
     
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  5. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
  6. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Yeah but for instance Brogan was pretending to be a RFK guy. As unpopulist points out, he's just a propagandist for MAGA at the end of the day
     
  7. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Yeah ... uh ... I'll get right on that one of these days.
     
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  8. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I said before that the media loves a horse race, and will prop up Trump to make it look like there is one. But the one thing they love more is drama. This is drama and they will eat Trump alive to get more. I just wish it started a day or two ago.
     
  9. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Dems have been very good at shaping this narrative in the last week.

    I noted Plouffe was at the centre of it, with his story about late breaking indies

    Maybe it's also true but whatever way - they seeded a momentum story which can have major impact when so many people only decide in the last week
     
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  10. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is what most recent have showed….. Harris is winning late deciders by 11 pts.
     
  11. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I only saw about 0.2% of the interview, so I may be corrected on this, but it really seemed that Rogan was trying to help Trump as much as possible and guide him towards answers that his viewers would like and Trump wasn't having it.
     
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  12. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Yes - i posted the unpopulist interview which shows how he is a total fraud. He pretends to be a truth teller whereas he just platformed MAGA propaganda. Indeed the only time he really pushed back at all was on Trump being too in favour of vaccines lol

    These guys like Rogan are best understood as fanfic IMO. If you look into other genres like True Crime, you see the same formats - very long, fireside chat style "lives" full of conspiracy and rambling conversations which the algo boosts and which hold a lot of ads
     
  13. the5timechamp

    the5timechamp Member+

    Nov 3, 2012
    Joe Rogan and his followers represent basic bitch men. They aren't smart and if you talk to them you can walk them through things and help them make sense and feel better about it. They're really dumb and insecure and lash out against anything they don't get that isn't super ignorant..
    Rogan himself is such a malleable tool that if you go into the show to sell a topic (whatever topic it may be) Joe will do most of the selling himself… he gives folks plenty of time to articulate ideas as well and does minor pushback regardless of how blatant it is
    He will watch a random video 10 mins before going on air then him and a guest will discuss the thing with minimal knowledge and act as subject matter experts.. its easily digestible
     
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  14. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Jul 16, 2017
    This is certainly part of why the pills are so dumb. The other is the pollsters are using AI models to simulate results.

    https://missouriindependent.com/2024/10/01/pollsters-are-turning-to-ai-this-election-season/

    AI is dumb as bricks and when you feed it garbage, you get garbage. When the results don't align with your preconceived notions, you edit the data until it does. So download data from Twitter, et al, on topics, feed it into a model with how you think people would respond, and if you get results you don't like, you massage the data until you do.

    These people are the worst.
     
  15. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    I don’t have a problem trying it out. I do have a problem using it as their reported results without plenty of testing and comparison with actual results.
     
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  16. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Jul 16, 2017
    I have a problem with it as a statistician. We are so far away from simulating human behavior in this manner. The Internet is hardly a reliable method to understand people's thoughts on current issues. We know that owners of social media manipulate what is shown and isn't and that can sway things a lot. It also means you end up with the loudest voices have the biggest impact, just like money does under Citizens.

    If some tech bro wants to play with it in his villa, fine. But it should not be used to sway who is elected, what policies to enact, and what laws to pass. That's insane. You want AI to use data from Twitter to determine what policies should be enacted?
     
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  17. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    As far as I can tell, she isn't easily offended.
     
  18. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    How is my opinion different than what you just said?
     
  19. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Have you not followed dear Meg's career arc?

    She craved mainstream success but flopped hard. So then she became another content creator, but the algo being what it is, only the worst kind of MAGA conspiracists and fash curious handmaidens get views - and she is just that thirsty
     
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  20. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Pfft - no one is more thin skinned than Meg

    She spent the last couple of years thirsting for clicks and getting big mad with anyone who points out her wild hypocrisy
     
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  21. Rewinder

    Rewinder Member+

    Jun 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I'll give Megyn Kelly credit for remaining a shit stain of a human even when got spat out by the MAGA machine and landed at NBC. Most others do a 180 and pretend to be a whole different person.
     
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  22. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    Stories about his new black and gold hat and tie being some sort of message to his Proud incels er Boys.
    Conspiracies abound.

    Or a new sales scam for a $40 cap.

    IMG_7334.jpeg
     
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  23. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Complete shit stain indeed...Sometimes I wonder what motivates those people? She has plenty of money....I dont get it...
     
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  24. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    The “Gold watch” wasn’t a real hit. But Drumpf the ever grifter keeps trying.

    Patriotism Is Alive. Shop Now — Embark on a journey with America's greatest brand—find your bold and brave gear here. Get ready to win bigly and visit the exclusive shop for the best in....”. “Nazi gear”
     
  25. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    She is just that thirsty.

    But unfortunately for Meg she was a replaceable cog at fox and had little actual talent.
     

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