Pre-match: Can't believe it took this long for this thread, the 2024 Presidential election thread!

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Who will be the 2 Candidates for the 2 big parties in 2024

  1. Joe Biden

    34 vote(s)
    53.1%
  2. Kamala Harris

    20 vote(s)
    31.3%
  3. Bernie Sanders

    2 vote(s)
    3.1%
  4. Ted Cruz

    1 vote(s)
    1.6%
  5. Donald Trump (from prison)

    28 vote(s)
    43.8%
  6. One of the Trump idiots

    4 vote(s)
    6.3%
  7. A Never Trump Republican

    2 vote(s)
    3.1%
  8. The dude from Florida (not florida man)

    6 vote(s)
    9.4%
  9. A Trumpian Republican

    10 vote(s)
    15.6%
  10. Hail Grimes!

    10 vote(s)
    15.6%
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  1. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
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    Agree. I know that as well...Herding has been prevalent lately and it is a clear attempt to gum up the Harris support.
    That is exactly why, as you said, Selzer number are forcing some pollsters to reevaluate their methodology.
    A lot of them will have eggs on their faces this week.
     
  2. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

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    #7777 rslfanboy, Nov 4, 2024
    Last edited: Nov 4, 2024
    You are forgetting the other 3 tea leaves:
    • Doom/Gloom
    • Despair
    • Agony
    Disappointment is baked in.
     
  3. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Go listen to the Bulwark interview Miller has with Selzer. She is has a history of outlier polls with a history of being correct.
     
  4. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    Larry Sabato’s Crystal Ball forecasts Kamala Harris winning the electoral vote over Donald Trump, 276 to 262.

    “If Harris does win, it might be an indicator that the last days of a campaign can matter, even at a time when so many vote before Election Day. We are not going to recount the various headlines from Trump and his allies over the past 10 days or so, but ask yourself: has Trump closed strong in this race? We don’t really think so, nor do many of the people we’ve talked to in the past several days.”

    “He also, in our view, has been more prominent down the stretch than Harris has been, which may not be helpful to him—this is mostly impressionistic, to be sure, but think back to when Trump won in 2016: The focus late in that campaign was Hillary Clinton’s emails and her problems.”

    They also have Republicans winning the Senate with 52 seats and Democrats barely winning the House with 218 seats.
     
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  5. Rewinder

    Rewinder Member+

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    Why would I not accept the results.

    To be so far off in two out of the last three elections would be another stain on pollsters (other than the few who would get it right), to the point where they would have next to no credibility for future elections.
     
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  6. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

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    Atlasintel has been the Trump favoring pollster who's quickness is very fishy.


    Their final national poll is Trump leading Harris by 1.1 in a 5 way race and 1.2 head to head. Obviously would be a horrific popular vote outcome, but that's Harris's best poll with them in awhile
     
  7. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

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    Final Zogby.

    Harris up 2.3 head to head and 3.8 in a full field
     
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  8. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    Atlas is an absolute joke.....
     
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  9. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    #7784 charlie15, Nov 4, 2024
    Last edited: Nov 4, 2024
    Ok.....Get ready for it then...Harris is going to win on the strength of the women's vote; the gender gap and the overwhelming support of AA, AAPI, Jewish, LGBTQ etc. not to mention a much superior GOTV operation.
     
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  10. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    +1

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  11. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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  12. Hayaka

    Hayaka Member+

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    If Harris did that it would be Democrats who would try to burn down the Capitol!
     
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  13. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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  14. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

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    I just want to brag and show these off, but I voted early and got these awesome stickers from my city clerk a while back.

    [​IMG]
     
  15. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

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    Is it over yet?
     
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  16. argentine soccer fan

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    And don't forget naturalized immigrants.

    While Trump is absolutely wrong in how he describes immigrants, he is right about one thing. Most of us are planning to vote against him. There are reportedly over 3.5 million new naturalized immigrants eligible to vote since the last presidential election. A large number of those are - no doubt to a large extent thanks to Trump's divisive rethoric - highly energized to vote against him.

    While many reside in states that are already decided, some key states - Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia, Nevada etc- also can boast a large number of these new voters. Given how challenging it's been for pollsters to create reasonable models, I wonder if these highly energized potential new voters are being properly represented in the polls.

    I'm not sure if anybody posted this Newsweek article from last week.

    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-kamala-election-immigration-swing-states-migrants-1973981
     
  17. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    It will never end.
     
  18. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    They are freaking out......

    “In the wee hours of Monday morning, Elon Musk, the billionaire who has put nearly $120 million behind an effort to get Donald Trump elected, issued a simple warning on the social media platform he owns. ‘Men must vote!’ he wrote at 2:43 a.m.,” the New York Times reports.

    “His post, a plea that has been issued by several Trump allies in the campaign’s final stretch, reflected a growing concern from Mr. Trump’s team that heavy turnout among women in several key battleground states could spell trouble on Election Day.”
     
  19. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    He is high as a kite....

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  20. Sounders78

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    Every accusation is a confession.
     
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  21. chaski

    chaski Moderator
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    Not so, they are currently in 10th place.

    [​IMG]
     
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  22. the5timechamp

    the5timechamp Member+

    Nov 3, 2012
    Well our friends at Fox News are busy priming their base.. apparently Kamala has lost way too much support in the last 2 weeks to have a chance at winning

    at this point:

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  23. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    January 6 is still a couple months away.
     
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  24. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    #7799 charlie15, Nov 4, 2024
    Last edited: Nov 4, 2024
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    Measured but pretty confident.
     
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  25. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

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    I think others may have addressed this, but that Iowa pollster uses a different, more traditional and simple methodology than most other pollsters do. And her polls have been extremely accurate in Iowa. So, no, her numbers and polling in other battleground states wouldn’t align, because those polls use a different methodology. Is she right? We’ll know in the next 30-36 hours or so.
     
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