Pre-match: Can't believe it took this long for this thread, the 2024 Presidential election thread!

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Who will be the 2 Candidates for the 2 big parties in 2024

  1. Joe Biden

    34 vote(s)
    53.1%
  2. Kamala Harris

    20 vote(s)
    31.3%
  3. Bernie Sanders

    2 vote(s)
    3.1%
  4. Ted Cruz

    1 vote(s)
    1.6%
  5. Donald Trump (from prison)

    28 vote(s)
    43.8%
  6. One of the Trump idiots

    4 vote(s)
    6.3%
  7. A Never Trump Republican

    2 vote(s)
    3.1%
  8. The dude from Florida (not florida man)

    6 vote(s)
    9.4%
  9. A Trumpian Republican

    10 vote(s)
    15.6%
  10. Hail Grimes!

    10 vote(s)
    15.6%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the biggest difference is that Clinton made a note of her being a woman, while Harris has not.
     
  2. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    IIRC, Pennsylvania was called by AP on Saturday morning in 2020.
     
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  3. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    I think that with Barça leading the way, Franco's team will have to match their commitment to the women's game.With that, another league will continue to ascend in their standard.

    At the same time, I don't see the NWSL continuing to ascend in the same way that other leagues have. Part of that is that the US had been the standard for so long, but the other part of it is/are the (relatively) inferior coaching, compared to what can be found abroad.
     
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  4. gatotkaca3

    gatotkaca3 Member

    Oct 23, 2010
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    It will be momentous either way, won't it? Either the US gets its first woman POTUS, or it finally goes full fascist
     
  5. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yup, not the man I expected to learn the news from

    [​IMG]
     
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  6. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    France
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France

    Six of one, half dozen of another. :cry:
     
  7. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Goes both ways. In the US, there is still an affluence barrier to entry for so many kids. However, in Europe, some players are finding it pointless to play in leagues where there are only a handful of meaningful and challenging games, and the rest are 7-1 blowouts.

    NWSL just internationalized their player contract structure to align with the rest of the world, aside from still having a league minimum salary and benefits. They are making a huge push to keep the league at the forefront.

    But yeah, they need to recruit better coaches, just like the men’s game, as well as make changes to keep talent in the pipeline, even if their parents aren’t wealthy.
     
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  8. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If she wins GA, NC and MI on tuesday night, it is game over the same hight and it will be called.
    The remainders, PA/WI/AZ/NV can be announced later this week to pad the stats.
     
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  9. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would have thought that as well. But it seems that varying clubs still are stuck on looking back relative to their support for the women's game, while others are looking forward. Beyond RM, one would think that Juve and AC Milan and other Italian teams would put money into the women's game, but haven't.

    There is the current, and the future. Currently, NWSL is the standard. And will be in the near future, maybe even for the next decade.
    But, we need to keep in mind that professional soccer at club level in the US has only existed for two decades. In England, Italy, France (and I think Spain) it has existed since the early 1970s (granted, it was semipro for a long time), and in Germany, since the early 1980s. Yet, with all that history, they still have not surpassed the US, overall. Why? I don't know. I do agree that it will happen, one day. But not yet.
     
  10. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's the dream.
     
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  11. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  12. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This poll is a shocker....either it is totally wrong or something is happening....

     
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  13. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Da Fuk
     
  14. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    She’s intentionally playing that down, in light of 2016. Smart strategy so far.
     
  15. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    Is he also making you buy a Tesla which you will lease out?
     
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  16. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    she’ll only reveal she is a biological women after it’s in the bag
     
  17. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    wonder what happened to that guy?
     
  18. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’ll believe that when I see it.

    But again, that’s a state with a lot of small towns, like Iowa, like those Kansas house districts that have very good numbers for the Ds.
     
  19. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    This is an interesting national poll from PBS. It looks like the gender gap has closed as we get to the final hours.

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...mp-in-final-pbs-news-npr-marist-election-poll

    I'll let the experts venture a guess on what this means for the states that matter.
     
  20. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    I think the Italians lag, in part because their men's game likewise lags other leagues.

    Franco's team will HAVE TO invest in the women's side, or risk abject humiliation by their top rivals. In turn, that eague will be the next to ascend, IMO.

    I think the last WWC was illuminating.

    The USWNT looked like a 1990s Big Ten soccer team, punting it long, and hoping for something to happen. For a long time, the fact that they had a giant bigot at the #9 to hoof it to meant that it didn't matter.

    Meanwhile, if you watched other sides play, a lot of them just played BETTER soccer. (And not just Spain.) And, I think thats down to the improvement in other leagues, while NWSL seems to have hit an asymptote in its development.
     
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  21. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm inclined to think that's much closer to The "Biden is up 17 points in Wisconsin" Poll from 4 years ago but my level of optimism has improved leaps and bounds over the last week
     
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  22. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    Don't disagree with the strategy.

    I'm more about observing that our nation just MAYBE, might catch up to others in that regard.
     
  23. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
  24. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Watching MSNBC....Dems apparently are pretty bullish in NC, the reporter mentioned. She had a brief interview with Gov Roy Cooper who revealed that 55.5% of early voters arre women. He was also very confident. That is a pretty significant number though and I can't see the gOP winning if that trend sustains or even it is a 6 or 7 pts in the gender gap.
    Internals are also telling that late deciders are breaking to Harris by 10 pts.
     
  25. luftmensch

    luftmensch Member+

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    United States
    May 4, 2006
    Petaluma
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Man, that’s shocking considering how inspiring and insightful Trump has been during recent appearances.
     
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