Pre-match: Can't believe it took this long for this thread, the 2024 Presidential election thread!

I was observing this today and started to wonder whether this is a symptom of quiet exhaustion. Like people just want the noise to stop and they certainly don't want to promote the noise with signs. If that hypothesis is true, I'm not sure how that plays out in terms of voting and Harris's chances. I could make the argument either way: quiet rage versus quiet surrender.

 

We will never agree on anything. Being tough on crime including three strikes was detrimental to the nation, so too the war on drugs and all this stuff that has been an excuse to destroy the lives of black people.

I will give you credit for not doing a drive by or just posting tweets. You elaborate your thoughts and explain them. They are incredibly wrong bur you do take the time. So I respect your process but not your opinion.

 

If he is true to his principles, he'll push for Trump to get the max sentence for his litany of crimes and be outraged that he is planning to have his AG drop all federal charges and pardon hundreds of insurrectionists.

Let's see.

 

Where I live it’s mostly city council candidates or “no on J” (a county proposition that’s almost universally reviled). Some Harris/Walz and very little Trump/Vance (though I do live in the more liberal side of town).

 

That will be an impressive accomplishment! This campaign is pulling all the stops.

The Harris Walz campaign has announced a series of swing state rallies/concerts on Monday that will be live-streamed in real time.

They include:

- Tim Walz in Detroit with Jon Bon Jovi, Detroit Youth Choir, & The War and Treaty
- Tim Walz in Milwaukee with Eric Benét
- Kamala Harris in Philadelphia with Ricky Martin, Lady Gaga, Oprah, Katy Perry, The Roots, DJ Jazzy Jeff, Jazmine Sullivan, and others (I think this is the big closing event)
- Kamala Harris in Pittsburgh with Katy Perry, D-Nice, and Andra Perry
- GOTV concert in Las Vegas with Christina Aguilera, Los Tigres del Norte, and SOFI TUKKER and "special guests"
- GOTV concert/rally in Atlanta with "special guests" to be announced
- GOTV concert/rally in Raleigh with James Taylor, Sugarland, Fantasia Barrino, and Remi Wolf and "special guests"
- GOTV concert in Phoenix with La Original Banda El Limón and "special guests" to be announced

Apparently there will be a virtual coast to coast simulcast of concerts, speeches, and rally activities for quite a few hours Monday afternoon and evening.

One helluva way to close out the campaign in all seven swing states.

 

I also wonder if tensions have gotten so high that people are afraid of violence towards them due to their choice of candidate, so they’re being quieter about it.

 

Ok, so here's the thing:

"Functional recession" isn't a thing. It's a made up phrase. "Technical recession" isn't a thing, either.

Meaning, something called, "inflation." (In this case, brought about by interests rates held too low for too long, PLUS, piles of free money passed out as a response to COVID.)

IOW, a standard response to "inflation," irrespective of which party is in power. Reagan's administration raised rates, just as Biden's did, in response to periods of "inflation."

This in fact, did not happen. Incomes are UP, according to the BLS.

This also in fact, did not happen; the googly masheen will tell you that both the S&P 500 and home values are UP over the course of the Biden administration's term.

Which, in fact did not happen. Prices are up, but then so too are incomes, the stock market, and housing prices.



In sum, half of what you hypothesized did NOT happen: Incomes are up, the stock market is up, and home valuations are up.


This is another example of you deriving your views, based upon facts not in evidence. IOW, you made things up. You made up the phrase, "functional recession," and then made up the "reasons" why you think a made up thing is real.

In turn, other posters respond negatively to you.

They think there is a recession, because they have been told one was coming, which didn't come, and the media tells them to be afraid as well.

Again: not a thing.

You just again described a REAL thing:

Its called, "inflation."

Because you:

1. Made up a term, then
2. Backed up that made up term by describing some things that are not in evidence.


Again:

Is inflation real? Yep.
But are the stock markets and housing markets up? Yep.
Is the US' GDP up? Yep.

Does this = a "recession?"

Nope.

 

As a tool to feed to tourists and the "out-of-town-stupid," yes.

 

This is an untrue assertion. From time to time I post economic stats just to make sure we’re all grounded in reality.

Also, somewhere you responded to a point someone made about all the former Trump appointees who are now speaking out for Kamala. They’re not saying he was a bad person to work for. They’re saying he’s unfit for the presidency.

I could go on and in, but my main point is, I dont know how to talk to you.

http://kfmonkey.blogspot.com/2005/10/lunch-discussions-145-crazification.html

You have General Crazification. Tyrone defines you in the “so woefully misinformed” clause. Your description of the former Trump officials’ reasons for opposing him are the best indicator for that. Your misunderstanding of the economy is another.

I give you some credit…most Trumpers try to tell us 2+2=10. You’re just trying to tell us 2+2=5.*. Still wrong though.

*I will rep whomever Names That Tune.

 

People are either afraid, or embarrassed, since Jan 6, unless they’re in very blue or very red areas.

 

As for the Raleigh rally…I’m sure you all know who James Taylor is. You may not know he’s an NC guy. Fantasia Burrino was an early American Idol winner from either High Point or Winston-Salem in the Triad area. Don’t know Sugarland or Remi Wolfe.

Jodeci is from Charlotte.

<sigh> page turn

 

I'm in a very blue area. It takes me 18 minutes to drive to work through various neighborhoods. I see 2 signs for Kamala and 1 for the orange fascist. That's it.

 

Here’s an indicator the Iowa poll is legit. Outlier no more. But as I wrote before, maybe it all comes down to whether asking whom they voted before is a good or a bad weighting/screening question.

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By the way, an update on the Trump sign shrine on the hillside in Reno. About 1/3 of it was removed and relocated to McCarran Boulevard. So much astroturf by one zealot.

 

Signs I see on my daily walk in my neighborhood:

Lot of Harris-Walz signs. Some standard campaign fare, some that are creative (Like the blank Harris sign with Walz added), a few houses with Trump signs. There's a big Veterans for Trump one on my street. Surprisingly the one super right wing house near my place has been sparse.

 

No, you didn't. This is what you said.

A president loses an election and sends an angry mob to the Capitol to stop the transfer of power and your answer is "I don't have strong feelings"?

This has nothing to do with me not liking your answer, it has everything to do with you not wanting to admit the guy you are supporting has no interest in upholding the Constitution and is a threat to our democracy.

I mean, if that didn't move the needle for you, do you have a needle?

Never in our history has an outgoing President had so many of the people that worked in his administration go against him and even go against their party that they have supported forever.

You do not care? What do you care about then?

Yeah, no. What you post has no substance and isn't even based in reality, as we have seen in others responses to your posts.

You came into the Crew message boards, posted a bunch of made-up crap and then got your panties in a bunch when you got push back. I have encountered people like you online and in real life, too. You like to flout your opinions like fact and get pissy when people don't genuflect at your feet for gracing us with your brilliance.

Hopefully you will go away when the demon you support gets his ass handed to him on Tuesday. I'm willing to bet you don't, that you will be back in here spouting election interference theories and getting mad that people don't just accept your stupidity.

 

I do a lot of driving in rural Ohio. A lot. And although I haven't seen anywhere as many Trump signs, and more Harris signs than Biden ever had, the Trump signs aren't just a sign, they are huge displays with multiple signs of all sizes.

Similar to religious shrines. That's the only way I can accurately describe them.

Oh, and the one client I went to visit that had the picture of Trump, blood on his cheek and fist in the air, on a flag that was covering his entire garage.

I just don't get the idol worship most of the Trumpists display.

 

she’s rumored to also be in Scranton and Allentown tomorrow. Today, campaign surrogate John Legend stopped in at the coffeehouse my wife were in for two hours this morning. The store he visits is across the street.

https://www.thetimes-tribune.com/20...es-harris-scranton-his-all-on-campaign-visit/

 

Maybe our conservative “intellectual” will stop bringing it up the 1000th time you point out it is a lie.

But probably not.

 

If Harris does win, damn, but this election will be a fascinating one to dissect. I doubt any of us will live to see anything like it again (hopefully). But the astronomical gap in the ground game and the number of effective surrogates between the two candidates is hard to overstate.

 

I'm not counting on it. It's an inconvenient truth for him.

 

LGBT+ Black churches tend to be pretty alright.

 

Not sure if this was posted before, but daaaamn…

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