Pre-match: Can't believe it took this long for this thread, the 2024 Presidential election thread!

I don’t troll. What you have been doing, and did again with this response, is ignore the things that are uncomfortable or impossible to vaguely explain away.

Trump is the biggest threat to our democracy, ever He tried to forcibly override a fair election, undermines the next election before it has even happened, has been called out by dozens of people that worked for his previous administration as being dangerous.

He will literally say anything, ANYTHING, to get elected and you just swallow the hook on all of it.

 

I can't wait for us to crush these guys so we can go back to disagreeing over taxes and whether DC or Chicago are worse

 

That may be wishful thinking though....The Republican Party has become a nativist, neo fascist, white nationalist movement. I do not see it reverting this trend in the event that the felon loses. The time of discussions of marginal tax rate are over....

 

I think some current and former GOP members may be temped to create a center right liberal party with a few remnants of the old school republicans. The problem is the GOP base has zero appetite for those types of people and movement. They are only motivated by hate, cruelty, grievances, chauvinism and racism.
I was listening to a bulwark podcast last week and Adam Kissinger, with Tim Miller, was saying that the old GOP proponent of strong national security, the rule of law etc doesn't exist anymore, it is gone. He is exactly right.....

 

Where have the Tories gone post BoJo?

Oh.

 

I am trying not to get too confident but there is an optimism seeping in.

 

He certainly commits more crime than she does. The score is 34 felony convictions to 0.

 

That just means the disappointment will be that much greater.

 

@Athlone says he hasn’t perceived a change in Trump’s rhetoric. However, us obsessive remember that news article from maybe a week ago that literally counted words and so forth and found his rhetoric has deteriorated since 2016.

I’m not saying this to try to change his mind, because he won’t, it’s just a reminder to us regulars of the facts of the matter.

 

I know JD Vance has called Trump "America's Hitler", but I'm not familiar with a single Democratic politician who has. Can you provide some specific names of Democrats who have?

I think this is just another dishonest line put out by Republicans that you have accepted at face value.

 

Just a reminder…this is a good guess, but really, nobody knows. Either way, we’re all going to go on a delightful adventure together! There’s no historical analogy that I know of to a nation flirting with fascism with a terrific economy. So we’re all just guessing what would happen if Trump loses.

One thing to remember is he’s due for sentencing later this month. If he loses and is sentenced to jail, and it sticks before, say, November 2026, he might just fade away.

The one historical analogy that has a tiny bit of relevance is the Bush 2 presidency. GOP media and posters here were pretty fanatical Bush supporters, but within 8 years they began to just as fanatically support Trump. So the possibility of the GOPs and Fox and the rest collectively memory holing the whole Trump presidency is in play.

 

Yeah, I don't agree with that poster, for the most part. And, as mentioned, I don't agree with how he derives his views.

And while its an extremely low bar, at least he's not a trollturd like so many others before him.

 

What, EXACTLY do you mean by this?

A recession has a TEXTBOOK definition to it, and no, it ain't "my fee fees got hurted, and the numbskulls on fox teevee tell me its a recession," because "reasons."

Show us a link as proof of this.

And nothing from known right wing propaganda sources.

 

If I’m not mistaken DC, Chicago, and the Smurfs each have four spoons. Three way tie for last.

 

TBF, no argument exists there.

 

Both the fire and dcu suck horses asses.

 

Pretty strong words from a guy who doesn’t watch MLS.

Not wrong, unfortunately, but strong.

 

Meh, it takes all of 5 seconds to look up the league table, so I can laugh and point at them.