Pre-match: Can't believe it took this long for this thread, the 2024 Presidential election thread!

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Who will be the 2 Candidates for the 2 big parties in 2024

  1. Joe Biden

    34 vote(s)
    53.1%
  2. Kamala Harris

    20 vote(s)
    31.3%
  3. Bernie Sanders

    2 vote(s)
    3.1%
  4. Ted Cruz

    1 vote(s)
    1.6%
  5. Donald Trump (from prison)

    28 vote(s)
    43.8%
  6. One of the Trump idiots

    4 vote(s)
    6.3%
  7. A Never Trump Republican

    2 vote(s)
    3.1%
  8. The dude from Florida (not florida man)

    6 vote(s)
    9.4%
  9. A Trumpian Republican

    10 vote(s)
    15.6%
  10. Hail Grimes!

    10 vote(s)
    15.6%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    I was going to post this in the media failure thread…but given the potential impact on the election (however slight…cause let’s face it this is likely baked in) I figured I’d post it here. Michael Wolf has released recordings of his discussions with Epstein commenting about Trump. My first reaction was “******** you asshole…why didn’t you release this during the primary when there was a chance it would end Trump’s candidacy”. Then I realized that if I’m doubtful this will have a big impact in the general….there was zero chance this would have affected the outcome of the primary. Plus it would have given trumps team close to a year to normalize this. Furthermore….kudos (I guess) to Wolff for releasing this now rather than in a book during the Harris administration. Particularly given the risk of a Trump presidency and the likelihood that in that presidency Seal Team 6 will be paying Wolff an official visit.


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  2. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A quick check of Wikipedia finds this meme is true. Geez. It just shows how a core principle, maybe THE core principle, of MAGA is unaccountability. Every rule, every dictum, is situational. Are we punching down, or punching up, THAT is all that matters.
     
  3. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  4. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My own mood has turned from very sour 2 days, or a lifetime, ago, to pretty good. Here’s why.

    1. Trump is panicking about Pennsylvania, his most gettable Old Midwest industrial state.
    2. Campaigns know not just the party registration and gender and race of early voters, but also the ages. They have bigger data operations than even the largest news organizations.
    3. This is me speculating, but something in the PA data has Trump spooked. My guess is that their strategy of turning out low propensity young male voters isn’t delivering. To me, young voters often work retail or restaurant or part time jobs that make early voting on a random weekday easier and less time consuming. My guess is that the data is showing young women are voting and young men are not.
    4. Harris’ campaign stops suggest an aggressive strategy to win states that aren’t must haves, and they have access to the same kind of detailed data.

    In short, both campaigns are acting as if Pennsylvania isn’t the be all, end all state, and it’s Trump panicking over that, which suggests he’s the one losing there.
     
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  5. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nah. I’ve seen those ads, being in NC. It’s aimed at dads wanting to protect their daughters from bathroom rapes and hard fouls in basketball.
     
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  6. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ok, in the intervening pages I see that y’all have already discussed PA as a warning sign.
     
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  7. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Overtones is doing some real lifting there. JITTY, you have to promise not to laugh to hard at the Jewish GOP PAC guys when they get to the gulag!!
     
  8. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That’s probably because you’re not a normal gay. ;)
     
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  9. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They used post menopausal women for I think obvious reasons.
     
  10. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    I voted in person yesterday ensuring a Harris victory in the closely contested state of Maryland.
     
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  11. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Too late....My vote last week already took her over the top....(admittedly not a hard talk in the people's republic of Maryland) :D

    As an aside, the amount of pro Hogan/anti Alsobrooks material I am getting is insane. My mail box is full after 2 days.....I am even getting the Epoch times now...Those people are either crazy or desperate or both. Apparently Bolton is behind the PAC pushing Hogan...Tough luck, mothe********ers.....
     
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  12. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nah. Josh Marshall has been covering this story. The GOPs’ databases are useless. They’re wasting lots of money sending mail to hard core Dems.
     
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  13. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  14. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    That's encouraging about Pennsylvania, but we'll see. What's your sense about North Carolina's prospects?
     
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  15. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    France
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France

    I read, I don't remember if it was here or elsewhere, that early older voter turnout in PA is well below expectations. Given that would be a GOP demographic, if true it could explain this. That said, they also might be more likely to show up on election day anyway, given that's how they've always done it.

    Personally, I'm feeling much more optimistic than I should (to the point I'm wondering if a body snatcher has taken me over or maybe I'm hallucinating). I just feel the way the orange Hitler-loving felon is alienating so many women and minority groups that it might not even be close. I'm sure I'll live to regret that, so I best go back to being pessimistic.
     
  16. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Epstein didn't kill himself.
     
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  17. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    No question. The question is whether his murder was an official act. His direct knowledge of the sitting president’s history of rape and pedophilia represented a significant National security threat after all.


    I can’t believe I wasn’t joking when I wrote that.
     
  18. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
  19. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    hand maiden of fash
     
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  20. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wisconsin has been in the spotlight for the last 2 Presidential elections, so nothing new here.
    Yet, I'm certain that Wisconsin will go Harris.

    And this goes hand in hand with AOC having the bullseye put on her as well (and H Clinton?). It ties in nicely to the masculinity theme discussed above.
     
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  21. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Ironic that the guy who hooked up with a porn actress will surround himself with minions wanting to ban porn, but there you go.
     
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  22. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    I retract this comment.

    He was calling out Cheney for being a chicken hawk (something we’ve all done to all of the right) for being all about supporting sending troops overseas.

    This is completely misrepresented.
     
  23. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I am sorry in advance for the replies you're going to receive.
     
  24. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What is misrepresented there? She is not a member of the armed forces, suggesting that she should be in some war zone and facing guns pointed at her means what?
     
  25. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Say the Bolsonaro fan boi ….. GTFOH
     

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