Pre-match: Can't believe it took this long for this thread, the 2024 Presidential election thread!

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Who will be the 2 Candidates for the 2 big parties in 2024

  1. Joe Biden

    34 vote(s)
    53.1%
  2. Kamala Harris

    20 vote(s)
    31.3%
  3. Bernie Sanders

    2 vote(s)
    3.1%
  4. Ted Cruz

    1 vote(s)
    1.6%
  5. Donald Trump (from prison)

    28 vote(s)
    43.8%
  6. One of the Trump idiots

    4 vote(s)
    6.3%
  7. A Never Trump Republican

    2 vote(s)
    3.1%
  8. The dude from Florida (not florida man)

    6 vote(s)
    9.4%
  9. A Trumpian Republican

    10 vote(s)
    15.6%
  10. Hail Grimes!

    10 vote(s)
    15.6%
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  1. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    It would be nice if Milley and co would call a press conference to say these things direct to the public instead of talking to the Atlantic and Bob Woodward
     
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  2. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually, I am hoping that will happen. Hopefully, the campaign is coordinating something in that regard. I think Milley may be much more open to that than the likes of Mitt, Kelly or Mathis.
     
  3. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Definitely.
     
  4. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NYTimes has an interesting article on the role Musk has been playing in getting Trump elected. From spending tens of millions via his SuperPAC on voter outreach, to using the heightened outreach that Twitter's algorithm gives his account to push pro-Trump narratives, to outright censoring of tweets that include negative information about Trump.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/11/us/politics/elon-musk-donald-trump-pennsylvania.html
     
  5. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One of the days this week she was on a lot of different pods/shows. And it was, apparently, mostly recycled stuff about herself and her positions. From a political reporter stuff, what she said was nothing special. But it was noted that she is making a strong effort to go after lower information voters who don't pay attention to politics, and don't know her. In particular, it was noted that her being on Whose Your Daddy pod was strange as they focus mostly on entertainment, but that is also made sense in that it is almost entirely an U45 audience, majority female audience, and super majority U35 audience. It was an appearance to reach out to the people on the margins.

    And this is in contrast to what Trump is doing. He (and Vance) is also going on some non-typical pods, but the audiences for those pods are almost exclusively White heterosexual males. Harris is going after everybody else, and even trying to move some White heterosexual males to her side of the of the arena. I think this is a good strategy as well.
     
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  6. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
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    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Flooding the zone:

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  7. Hayaka

    Hayaka Member+

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    And it’s hard to believe any poll with Fabrizio’s name on it is non-partisan, as he is the Trump campaign’s internal pollster.

    Not to mention Emerson may not be a partisan pollster, but their results have leaned right since at least 2020.
     
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  8. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
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    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I understand the concerns about GOP aligned polls and how they should be taken with a grain of salt, having said that the tightening of the race is a cause for concern.
     
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  9. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
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    Nat'l Team:
    France

    As I always say, panic now and beat the rush!
     
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  10. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
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    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Upside down everything:

    1844858806511055253 is not a valid tweet id
     
  11. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
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    Chicago Red Stars
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    United States
    Don't try to make him relatable, I am still not voting for him.
     
  12. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    This is a very interesting data point:

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    I also read a post from an organizer saying Dems in Florida are getting envelopes with cash from republican women. Encouraging if true.
     
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  13. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Somewhat related, I think. Was listening to some pod today, and they were discussing mail-in ballots. One of the reporters was saying that he spoke with possible (likely?) Harris-voting Republican women who didn't want to vote by mail, least they have their vote seen by people in the home.
     
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  14. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How is that encouraging?
     
  15. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Maybe there are more voters that we can get than we thought we could. And maybe the Florida dems are not so useless.
     
  16. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh I thought you meant voters…you mean candidates
     
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  17. Given the global warming issue with Florida I've got a question.
    If Florida because of global warming is reduced to let's say 50% of it's current size, but people move away to other states in such numbers, the state is reduced to let's suppose 1/3 of it's current population....does that have any effect on Florida's contribution to the senate etc. or the voting for the president?
     
  18. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Senate, no. Every state gets 2 senators regardless of population.

    Presidential voting, yes. The number of electoral votes a state gets is equal to its number of members of Congress (2 senators + however many representatives), and representatives are allocated by state based on the census, which is taken every 10 years. Each state gets about 1 representative per 760,000 residents right now. Florida currently has 28 representatives, so it gets 30 electoral votes.

    If the population were a third of what it currently is, they'd get about 10 representatives using the current rep to population ratio, so they would have 12 electoral votes.
     
  19. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    But his economic policies!!!

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  20. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Elmo, the digger…

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  21. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not sure about that. 20% for Other is rather high.

    What is the current count in the Scott v. Mucarsel-Powell race?
     
  22. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    welcome to the oligarchy where the US Gov is flogged off to billionaires. like the 80s on steroids.
     
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  23. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    No coaches in Coachella:

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  24. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Big deal. He got his speech in. He got his soundbytes out on MAGA-oriented media, AND it’s in California, where he wasn’t going to win anyway. So what if those people don’t vote for him now?
     
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  25. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    David Plouffe was on with Pfeiffer today if you want some super anorak analysis.

    Plouffe is a senior advisor on the Harris campaign so i presume the point of him doing this was strategy for dem operatives and keep volunteers focussed.
     
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