Pre-match: Can't believe it took this long for this thread, the 2024 Presidential election thread!

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Who will be the 2 Candidates for the 2 big parties in 2024

  1. Joe Biden

    34 vote(s)
    53.1%
  2. Kamala Harris

    20 vote(s)
    31.3%
  3. Bernie Sanders

    2 vote(s)
    3.1%
  4. Ted Cruz

    1 vote(s)
    1.6%
  5. Donald Trump (from prison)

    28 vote(s)
    43.8%
  6. One of the Trump idiots

    4 vote(s)
    6.3%
  7. A Never Trump Republican

    2 vote(s)
    3.1%
  8. The dude from Florida (not florida man)

    6 vote(s)
    9.4%
  9. A Trumpian Republican

    10 vote(s)
    15.6%
  10. Hail Grimes!

    10 vote(s)
    15.6%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
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    I would say leave the troll alone but I found myself answering the siren call of dumb********ery the other night so I can't complain
     
  2. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
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    Borussia Dortmund
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    Germany
    Old MAGA white guys. I am surprised the didn't endorse Michigan's Man of the Year.
     
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  3. Germanyfan1993

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jun 17, 2018
    So I’m a troll because I vote differently? Stay mad voting for someone who nobody wanted in 2020 and was chosen because she checked the boxes of what democrats want POC and a woman and she thought picking a white guy would make white people vote for her lol so ridiculous.
     
  4. Scissorkick Collins

    Dec 30, 2009
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    No, you’re a troll because you argue using absurd contradictions - e.g., Dems didn’t want Harris in 2020 and instead went with a white man, but now we’re choosing Harris only because we want a woman POC?

    And on top of that, Dems who “only wanted a POC woman” are actually excited about her running mate, who is white, and that’s somehow further proof that Dems have an issue with race?

    This is why people here don’t take you or others like you seriously.
     
  5. Germanyfan1993

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jun 17, 2018
    Dems didn’t want her in 2020 she was out before Iowa. This whole voting for Kamala because of democracy and calmness is complete BS. Yall will vote her in and 2 years later complain about how things are just because you have a personal anger towards a Trump. I’m gay I can careless if Trump wins or loses since I win in either way.
     
  6. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
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    You know they want you dead in a ditch, right?
     
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  7. All for the good cause, I guess.:(
     
  8. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
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    Dec 15, 1999
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    I'm glad this is how this space is used.
     
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  9. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
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    Seattle Sounders
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    France

    No, you don't. In fact, you lose if Trump and Republicans win. Just look at all the anti-gay laws that have been passed in Republican-controlled states.

    You seem to have a complete ignorance of the history of being gay in this country and the goals of the right-wing when it comes to the LGBT+ community.
     
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  10. ??
     
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  11. Scissorkick Collins

    Dec 30, 2009
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    LOL, good for you. And I’m pretty sure you’re trying to say you “can’t” care less, because otherwise you’re saying you do care. Which you do since you’re here arguing. So many contradictions….
     
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  12. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Saw my first pro Harris signs out today....La Harris!
     
  13. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
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    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2020 was a completely different circumstance.

    Now, anyone that votes for the old man with senility issues is just plain dumb. Any credible Democrat could have run but Kamala had the inside track by being VP already.
     
  14. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
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    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I'm in a very red part of FL. Martin Co. We had Trump signs and flags in almost every house in 2020. Now there are about 5 flags for Trump and four signs for Harris. It rocks...
     
  15. Germanyfan1993

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jun 17, 2018
    Yes, I agree she had the inside track because she was VP. We also don't know how polling errors will impact republicans or democrats since it was in favor for dems in 2022. Honestly I hope there aren't massive polling errors like we seen in the past, but mostly it impacts Wisconsin + Michigan because pollsters always under poll white non-college educated voters. Also, I think dems had better options than Harris who I would consider voting for like Shapiro or Whitmer along with Kelly as a VP. We will get a clue how motivated voters are once early voting starts in the next few weeks in key swing states.
     
  16. Germanyfan1993

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jun 17, 2018
    I was using my iphone and autocorrect sucks, but yes thanks for the clarification :). I'm here to just speak my mind and share my POV if people don't like it they don't need to respond :D
     
  17. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
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    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What do polling errors have to do with anything?
     
  18. the5timechamp

    the5timechamp Member+

    Nov 3, 2012
    This would have been interesting to see, the lack of a proper “primary” had the nice effect of not having Dems fling crap at each other and providing the GOP with talking points… additionally I love that there was no in-fighting or division once Kamala was chosen (same as when Waltz became VP candidate). I had feared with all the different “levels” of demos that this would create an issue… the laser focus and united vision of the Dems has been specially great to see
     
  19. Hayaka

    Hayaka Member+

    Jun 21, 2009
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    Wow, you’re only an hour or so from Mar a Lago, the belly of the beast. Stay safe!
     
  20. Scissorkick Collins

    Dec 30, 2009
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    Similar to what I see here in a suburb of Denver/Boulder that was fairly conservative (lots of ag) a decade or two ago but leans blue now. Since I started paying attention in the past several days, I’ve seen several Biden/Harris signs pop up, but no signs for trump. Only the two same, tired trump flags that have flown for 4 plus years.
     
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  21. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Very fine people

     
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  22. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    It's remarkable the extent to which Longwell and co are actually excited about Kamala, whereas in '20 they were more republicans on loan. You can see the fault lines of a permanent realignment now.
     
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  23. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    From my side I am happy to engage in good faith with Republicans. I suspect I consume more actual conservative media than 95% of people here.

    However to me, a good faith engagement with a Trump voter would have to have the following foundation

    1. That Trump attempted a coup, for which he was indicted

    2. That you support him, despite him convictions for fraud and his company being found guilty of extensive fraud

    3. That you support him despite his false attack on legal immigrants at the debate.

    If the conversation can't be reality based, and includes a disgraceful misogynistic slur on Kamala .... sorry.

    There are actually citizens out there being upfront about it (see The Bulwark yesterday). These voters mostly do not like Trump, but they simply believe the economy will be better for them and that's all they care about.

    What I can't be bothered with is the Rich Lowry class of GOP voter who pretends to dislike Trump and can't support Kamala because of 'policies' but actually is a racist.
     
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  24. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    Have the Teamsters ever released demographic data on their membership? I have a theory and just want to see if I’m white about it.
     
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  25. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    miss sassy lives!
     

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