Pre-match: Can't believe it took this long for this thread, the 2024 Presidential election thread!

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Who will be the 2 Candidates for the 2 big parties in 2024

  1. Joe Biden

    34 vote(s)
    53.1%
  2. Kamala Harris

    20 vote(s)
    31.3%
  3. Bernie Sanders

    2 vote(s)
    3.1%
  4. Ted Cruz

    1 vote(s)
    1.6%
  5. Donald Trump (from prison)

    28 vote(s)
    43.8%
  6. One of the Trump idiots

    4 vote(s)
    6.3%
  7. A Never Trump Republican

    2 vote(s)
    3.1%
  8. The dude from Florida (not florida man)

    6 vote(s)
    9.4%
  9. A Trumpian Republican

    10 vote(s)
    15.6%
  10. Hail Grimes!

    10 vote(s)
    15.6%
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  1. superdave

    superdave Member+

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  2. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

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    getting English correct would be a good start.
     
  3. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Fascist Hellscape
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    I mean he literally announced a unified reich so not too much mystery for American jews there
     
  4. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
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    Pennsylvania is looking like a struggle to secure for the Democrats. And as Pennsylvania goes so may Michigan.

    But Harris has expanded the map, that losing PA may not be fatal.


    1834589099597934870 is not a valid tweet id
     
  5. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
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    Most also were likely not from Tucson. They were almost all probably from Oro Valley (which is north of Tucson).
     
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  6. dapip

    dapip Member+

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  7. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
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    Seems like a low energy campaign…

     
  8. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
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    I think this is a correct interpretation:

     
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  9. Deadtigers

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    Converse needs to come out with a special Chuck Taylor 47-,La edition. She stay rocking her chucks.
     
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  10. dapip

    dapip Member+

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  11. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

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    Wow, that Scott Taylor is a work of art - the classic "both sides do it" type.
     
  12. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

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  13. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    Some breathing room in that poll....the last 4 of 5 reliable ones have decent numbers for Harris.

    A new Yahoo News/YouGov poll finds Kamala Harris leading Donald Trump nationally in a head-to-head match up, 50% to 45%.

    In a multi-candidate field, Harris lead by a similar 48% to 44% margin.

    In last month’s poll just after the Democratic convention, Harris led by a narrow 47% to 46%.
     
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  14. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    Can one be a has-been twice? I thought he was already there.
     
  15. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
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    United States
    I watched part of a local interview with Walz in Michigan where the first question was basically a restatement of the ‘are you better off now than you were four years ago” inflation question from the debate. Walz responded with statements about the campaign’s economic policy, contrasting it with Trump’s etc.

    I really wonder why Harris and Walz don’t address this more directly, because it would seem to be pretty easy to do. Four years ago? September 2020? Why, yes, Americans are far better off than they were then, with the country shedding millions of jobs, businesses failing by the thousands, schools closed, a president telling everyone throughout that year that the pandemic would just magically vanish, who ignored the advice of experts, almost died ofCovid himself.

    Yes, Americans today are in a far, far better place now than they were then.

    From there you can address economic policy. But I’m lost as to why the campaign seems so unwilling to remind people that Trump left the White House with the economy in free fall.
     
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  16. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

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    Because people are tying 4 years ago to the start of Biden and the mess he walked into. I do think you are right though, they should say specifically September 2020.
     
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  17. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
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    good point - they are (uncharacteristically) missing a trick there.
     
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  18. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
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    My biggest issue is that when people say Trump lost more jobs and had a messed up economy when he left office, they always say, yes, because of COVID.

    So why in the hell does that not apply to Biden? Biden came into a world of COVID followed by the after-shock of global inflation. THAT IS WHY WE HAD THE PRICES WE HAD!!!

    Directly and indirectly. The inflation allowed many companies to hike up prices because, well, "everyone is doing it" argument beyond catching up with the cost of doing business. This isn't a secret...and yet, when we talk about inflation and prices - it is NEVER even mentioned.

    Hello!!!

    Did we all forget that ports and truck centers were closed for months with a back log? That some places like S Korea didn't even relax their covid restrictions until March 2022? That the demand from consumers could not match the production levels?

    Seems like reminding people of this is necessary because I get the feeling everyone has forgotten about it unless they reminded about Trump's final year in office.
     
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  19. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

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    fact is - everyone (everywhere) wants to forget about it.
     
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  20. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

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    Fact is, we have very short term memories, and many already have. It’s absurd that Harris-Walz wouldn’t remind them of it, then follow up by noting how much has been achieved since then, how Trump has no plan for the future, and then speak about theirs.

    This isn’t some historical reference point. It’s started 4.5 years ago under Donald Trump.
     
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  21. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Moxon on the bloodthirst of the good americans …

    —but it has to be said that one of the big reasons the race is close is that a whole lot of people look at Donald Trump's promises to menace and harm and kill literally millions of already marginalized people and they really like it; it makes them feel really good, it makes them feel like they're great again—so great that they're willing to overlook the fact that Trump is a profoundly ignorant grotesque dilettantish bully possessing not a single redeeming quality. And this group calls itself "conservative," a word they use to mean "the good people."

    What happened is that Vance's boss, Republican presidential candidate/pants shitter Don Trump, has been energizing his base by promising to deport 15 million human beings, which is a thing that has never before been done without concentration camps and ethnic cleansing and mass murder entering the picture. The people Trump claims he wants to deport are people in the United States who are undocumented—a group that Trump and his fascist gang call "illegals"—which is a pretty rich term for a gang of thugs led by a convicted felon awaiting sentencing to append to others. And Trump's thugs truly are energized by this promise of mass murder, as gangs of millions of fascist thugs usually are. As was pointed out in the debate, these Republican shit-heels really have no plan for improvement or maintenance of our society; all they have is the gal what brung 'em—nationalist bigotry—and so that's who they dance with, song after song.

    https://www.the-reframe.com/its-time-to-oppress-conservatives-2/
     
  22. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Fascist Hellscape
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    J.D. Vance, United States Senator for the state of Ohio, candidate for Vice President of the United States of America, a man with a very real path to becoming the most powerful person on the planet, is actively trying to get people in his own community murdered, for no reason other than the fact that they are immigrants and they are Black.
     
  23. dapip

    dapip Member+

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    Flooding the zone with sewage:

     
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  24. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Fascist Hellscape
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    Nat'l Team:
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    upload_2024-9-14_23-31-33.jpg

    there never is going to be any mass deportation.
     
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  25. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

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    One of the seldom-mentioned byproducts of such a mass deportation campaign will be persistent harassment of those who aren't deported but nonetheless share traits with the deported ones. In other words, those Hispanic citizens who don't get deported will also be harassed on a regular basis, if not killed by vigilantes.
     

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