Pre-match: Can't believe it took this long for this thread, the 2024 Presidential election thread!

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Who will be the 2 Candidates for the 2 big parties in 2024

  1. Joe Biden

    34 vote(s)
    53.1%
  2. Kamala Harris

    20 vote(s)
    31.3%
  3. Bernie Sanders

    2 vote(s)
    3.1%
  4. Ted Cruz

    1 vote(s)
    1.6%
  5. Donald Trump (from prison)

    28 vote(s)
    43.8%
  6. One of the Trump idiots

    4 vote(s)
    6.3%
  7. A Never Trump Republican

    2 vote(s)
    3.1%
  8. The dude from Florida (not florida man)

    6 vote(s)
    9.4%
  9. A Trumpian Republican

    10 vote(s)
    15.6%
  10. Hail Grimes!

    10 vote(s)
    15.6%
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  1. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    A lot of very favorable polling:

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  2. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Second poll giving Alsobrooks a lead outside of the MOE. That is good news. I have to say she is not running a very good campaign though.

    @soccernutter, looking at the NV and AZ senate numbers, as well as the NC gov numbers. there is a more than even chance, Harris will get some reverse coattail in this states.
     
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  3. Hayaka

    Hayaka Member+

    Jun 21, 2009
    San Francisco North Bay, Bel Marin Keys
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    Damn it, why no Montana?
    We really need a decent pollster to poll the senate race in Montana.
     
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  4. Unimane

    Unimane Member+

    Jul 28, 2009
    Nashville
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Today's outrage du jour from the Trump-Vance ticket is some odd, but incredibly racist, diatribes on Haitian immigrants eating pets (which isn't true - appears he deleted the post). Turns out, Vance has been fanning these anti-Haitian immigrant flames for a little while in Springfield, Ohio after tens of thousands of those folks came to the city and revitalized a lot of their industry. However, one Haitian immigrant hit a bus and killed a kid, so this meant every Haitian did it and Vance took up the mantle.

    So, I mean, the posts today about Haitians were over the top racist from the right, outright saying they should be banned, Chinese Exclusion Act style. When is it, then, we are allowed to call this racist?
     
  5. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Isn't Trump the same guy who refuses to hire Americans at Mar-a-Lago, instead choosing to bring in people from Haiti year after year, to work for next to nothing? Correct me if I am wrong.
     
  6. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Careful, with that kind of talk, you will just force them to vote Trump.
     
  7. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France

    And to be clear, the Haitians came there legally.

    Also, according to a Bulwark clip, "Haitians eating cats" is an old trope that has been resurrected.
     
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  8. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Sometimes they can’t get a random enough sample to run a proper statistical model with any confidence. I’m sure it’s on the list, but taking more time?
     
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  9. Smurfquake

    Smurfquake Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2000
    San Carlos, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not necessarily from Haiti, but Mar-A-Lago hires seasonal workers on H-2B visas which are for seasonal non-agricultural jobs and last for six months. A typical use is for ski resorts to hire Australian or New Zealand nationals at American resorts in the Northern Hemisphere winter / Southern Hemisphere summer, and then they go back to Australia or New Zealand and work the ski resorts there in the Southern Hemisphere winter. But Mar-A-Lago hires them for waiter jobs and apparently replaces them every six months. For the period from October 2023 to March 2024, they hired 136 foreigners for kitchen and hotel jobs. Story: https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-foreign-workers-mar-lago-1902982
     
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  10. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, that is not the case now. But the reports were, back in 2018, that MAL hired more workers from Haiti than they did of any other nationality using the H-2B visas. This came out after the "shithole countries" comment. Haiti, soon thereafter, was removed by the Trump WH from the list of countries eligible for those types of visas, if I recall correctly -- at least temporarily.
     
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  11. Smurfquake

    Smurfquake Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2000
    San Carlos, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You are correct.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/12/tru...-haitians-mar-a-lago-may-hold-the-answer.html

    Thanks for bringing back that memory - there's so much bullshit surrounding Trump that the medium awful stuff like this gets forgotten in favor of the super awful stuff.
     
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  12. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    always fun when football twitter starts to feature concentration camp content

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  13. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    It's interesting America is giving us a definitive answer on Shirer's "Good Germans" question

    tldr; for a long time Shirer's was a definitive thesis on the rise of Nazi germany. He believed that there was something specific about the german mentality that enabled the 'good germans' to go along with hitler's fascism. that view became discredited

    And it's interesting that Trump can propose vast internment camps for 10m people, including citizens - nothing less than a vast ethnic cleansing, and it's barely a theme of the election
     
  14. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One of Trump’s superpowers is how often nobody takes him seriously. Rightly or wrongly, nobody takes that mass deportation threat seriously.
     
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  15. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At some level, doesn't that mean that a decent percentage of Americans just don't take the presidency or the role of government, more generally, seriously? Obviously, none of this really makes any sense. You can't honestly just assume Trump can't or won't lock up all of his enemies or deport 10M people overnight, while at the same time think that Democrats - who've controlled the White House all but four years since January 2009 - will literally destroy the country if they're given another four years. Is Trump just jack-ass level entertainment for them? Is that all they really expect out of the president?
     
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  16. Val1

    Val1 Member+

    Arsenal
    Mar 12, 2004
    MD's Eastern Shore
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    That's because Trump is incompetent. And since the primary skill his associates must have is licking his ass, they tend to be pretty incompetent as well.
     
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  17. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In part, I think this fits. Lots of people think it’s The Politics Show. And obviously the media caters to those people above all. Hell, they ARE those people.

    Another factor is the literally vs. seriously bit.
     
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  18. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    This is how Trump even exists at all on the political stage. He managed to turn it into a reality TV show. The so-called serious media has been, and still is, helping him do this.
     
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  19. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wasn't thinking about Lake when I said that.
    Still, I'm not confident for Nevada because of how the Latinos are moving to Trump.
     
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  20. Hayaka

    Hayaka Member+

    Jun 21, 2009
    San Francisco North Bay, Bel Marin Keys
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    I think Trump has already reached his high water mark with respect to Latinos. Food and gas prices are down, the frightening deportation plans are percolating through the Latino community, and in Nevada the culinary union has endorsed Harris. Latinos in South Texas may still give Trump an unusual level of support, but barring an abysmal performance by Harris in the debate tonight I think Trump’s numbers won’t get any better with Latino voters in the tossup states.
     
  21. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    @soccernutter

    It is likely that Josh Stein is going to closer the batshit crazy GOP candidate in NC....We should see some reverse coattails for Harris there...it has to happen.

    A new SurveyUSA poll in North Carolina finds Josh Stein (D) with a commanding lead over Mark Robinson (R) in the state’s gubernatorial race, 51% to 37% with 11% undecided.
     
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  22. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Stuart Stevens agrees....

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  23. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    WOW...They know their guy is getting his clock cleaned....

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  24. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The fuck is every one?
     
  25. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Hello!
     
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